I am done with the trail grapplers and the noise/harsh ride.
Love the 295/70/17 width and square shoulder, AT2's are not avail. in this size.
Killer deal right now on treaddepot
305's are 33.9 x 12.2 -- $858 shipped
285's a 33.9 x 11.3 -- $850 shipped
Both are ok for the stock 8" rims.
I really like the width on the bigger tire and added contact patch how ever I am wondering how much that would impact MPG's and winter time snow.
FWIW I hated the stock AT's in the snow, though they were garbage and feel the nitto were drastically better if that means anything.
**EDIT, tires came in, went with 305-70-17, quick pic next to half worn 295-70 nitto trail grapplers still on the truck.
The online pictures do these tires no justice at all, I just hope they are not mud bogger loud like the TG's are now.
305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
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GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
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GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunes
ioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
305-70-17 would be perfect
Vehicle: 2007 Power Wagon Quad Cab - Factory Options (Inferno Red, Premium Cloth Bench Seat, Light Group, Automatic Transmission, Leather Steering Wheel)
Suspension: Carli 3" Hemi Coils, Carli Control Arms, Carli King 2.5 Pin-Tops, Carli Stainless Steering Stabilizer, Carli Trackbar | Synergy 1" Rear Shackle
Performance: Magnaflow Muffler | Magnaflow Y-Pipe
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04Ram2500Hemi
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
I know the 4th Gen is different from the 3rd Gen Power Wagon, but on my 2012 I went with the 285/75 Toyo A/T II's because I wanted to make sure I had room for snow chains. I've been really happy with the tires so far. Winter last year wasn't real extreme, so I didn't have the truck in real deep snow, but they did pretty good. I also had them siped, and that seems to help with the ice.
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nts007
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
What about 285/75-17
If you're looking at the toyos.
If you're looking at the toyos.
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08TwinStickPW
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
305's ordered.
Will snap pics next to the nitto's once I get the AT2's
Will snap pics next to the nitto's once I get the AT2's
08' Dodge RAM PowerWagon (Laramie, 6 Speed)
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunesioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.
Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunes
ioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
Im running the 305's on my truck. debated the 285/75 but very glad I went 305. I won't know about snow performance until winter though.
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
I just suggested the 285/75s for a bit less rolling resistance. Either size will do you well. If you went to 315/70 you would be closer to a 35 but I never seen a reason to do. 305. 1cm difference? You wouldn't notice
08 ctd--mini max--thuren 3" coils and LT Leaves--4.56 gears and lockers in pw axles--some lights--afe intake system--bd super b turbo--Banks w/m Injection--Dynatrac Balljoints--king 2.5"s--37" Hankook Dynapro MT--DOR Long arms--Custom emf track bar--Manual T-case swap--Full PW Under armor--PSC Hydro Assist and so much more
Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
i have 305s nitto...they rub the arms a little
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
I debated on the 285-75's, I just not a pizza cutter guy.nts007 wrote:I just suggested the 285/75s for a bit less rolling resistance. Either size will do you well. If you went to 315/70 you would be closer to a 35 but I never seen a reason to do. 305. 1cm difference? You wouldn't notice
They would be better for less resistance and better in the snow how ever I only have 43K on the truck. That being said most of my driving is around town so neither the added width or the rolling resistance should be a big impact, both sizes weight less and should roll along a bit better than the nittos on it now.
FWIW anyone looking at these in this size or currently running them I e-mail Toyo for what PSI to run and they said to run the Front@45psi and the Rear@40/55(un-loaded/loaded).
I will have them installed this month along with new BJ's and Universals. Should be a different and tighter truck after that lol.
08' Dodge RAM PowerWagon (Laramie, 6 Speed)
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunesioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.
Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunes
ioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
Looking good. 35's were too big for your taste?
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08TwinStickPW
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Re: 305-70-17 vs 285-75-17, help me chose (Toyo AT2)
Not at all, I would have loved 35's however there were a couple of things holding me back.adeluca73 wrote:Looking good. 35's were too big for your taste?
They were $132 more for (4) to only gain .5" in height and .25 wider I don't see the need to pay that much more and possible have rub issues.
Also the min. rim width for 35's is 8.5", we only have 8". I know many are running 35's with no issue on the stock rims I just didn't want to deal with running the tire on a non approved rim width.
I personally think the perfect size for the PW is the 295-70-17 (33x12) however I could not get that size so I went up one.
08' Dodge RAM PowerWagon (Laramie, 6 Speed)
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunesioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.
Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunes
ioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.