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supercharger
does anyone know if there is a supercharger made for a 2013 5.7 hemi dodge power wagon.
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Whipple Superchargers is developing a setup too.
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Would it be prudent to go through the engine first & fix known failure points & beef it up a little, in the 5.7 before adding a $6000.00+ supercharger ?
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I would agree with this. Especially if one is wanting a significant amount of boost. As they say, gotta pay to play.TwinStick wrote:Would it be prudent to go through the engine first & fix known failure points & beef it up a little, in the 5.7 before adding a $6000.00+ supercharger ?



On a newer engine with little wear, a small amount of boost shouldn't be a problem as long as it is tuned correctly. But, I know I would want a goodly amount of boost if it were my $6000! Just make sure the engine is tuned properly either way; adding a supercharger without a proper dyno tune can make an engine into an expensive paper weight VERY quickly!!!
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The 5.7 is known to break pistons at the ring channel. For more than about 6 psi you'll want reduced compression forged pistons and head studs. May as well rework the heads and change the cam all at the same time. In other words, a stock hemi needs some work for forced induction.TwinStick wrote:Would it be prudent to go through the engine first & fix known failure points & beef it up a little, in the 5.7 before adding a $6000.00+ supercharger ?
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Procharger still sends me emails. I had used their supercharger on my 08 srt8 back in the day. Was bad ass
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Anything over 6 lbs of boost. You better build the motor. With a boosted motor. Tuning is everything.
Here you go.
http://www.shophemi.com/c-1129-positive ... rgers.aspx
Here you go.
http://www.shophemi.com/c-1129-positive ... rgers.aspx
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What's it cost to safely build an engine for forced induction?
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Figure on GOOD rods, pistons, rings, bearings, ARP bolting, cam for boosted apps, the normal rebuild stuff, big HP is new forged crank, plus TUNING. Tuning is everything. I've seen guys boost a stock block 3.7L, 370Z to over 700 HP with a good tune. I've also seen built 370Z blocks in the scrap pile at 450 HP with a bad tune. The message is, find yourself a good tuner first before jumping into the boosted world if you're looking for more.
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I just built an LS2 for my 2006 GTO.What's it cost to safely build an engine for forced induction?
I used the original block.
New;
Forged crank,rods and pistons
Coated bearings
Cam,lifters,pushrods.
Trick Flow cylinder heads
T&D shaft rockers
ARP fasteners throughout.
Machine work
This cost me $8600,then add the cost of the supercharger on top.
Keep in mind that the LS motor is one of the least expensive platforms to build.
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Potentially 20 for a motor with a blower?
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yup...right around there!2202bblx2 wrote:Potentially 20 for a motor with a blower?
Then you'll also need an upgraded transmission that'll hold up to the extra power.
Not to mention the nickle and dime stuff like a bigger fuel pump and lines,depending on the power levels you're looking to reach.
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The 6.4 comes with a forged bottom end, if I were putting a blower on a 14+ I'd just change pistons, cam, lifters, and studs then focus on a transmission that won't explode from all of the torque. The 5.7 is different but I think 600 to 700 HP wouldn't be difficult and shouldn't cost $20K+.
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whats the most the manual transmission can take safley?
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Well, the G-56 w/CTD is limited to 660 lb ft of torque. Safely, I would say 600 & don't abuse it.
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There's quite a few diesel guys out there making +800hp and +1600 lb-ft, with G-56's so they can hold there own, but are prone to cases flexing and that taking out the internals. Like anything, abuse it and it will break.TwinStick wrote:Well, the G-56 w/CTD is limited to 660 lb ft of torque. Safely, I would say 600 & don't abuse it.
I would have to say if your going boosted in a hemi vehicle the only automatic trans that you will get to survive is an old school 727, or the new 8HP90 (would have to go divorced transfer case I think). It's not that the 545RFE or 66RFE can't handle the power, it's just the programming ability for the trans sucks and as far as I know no once has cracked them to the point where they can survive under abusive boosted applications.
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2002 Dodge Ram 1500 ST 4x4 Quad Cab 4.7L Bright Silver, HO Cams, 12,000 lbs Winch mounted behind bumper, 4.56's, 2500 factory tow hooks, 35x12.50 Toyo MT's, Air-Lift Ride Control bags, homemade hidden ball gooseneck hitch.
1987 W100 - carburated 5.7 Hemi/727 combo, 35" Toyo MT's. Ramcharger D44 w/ warn hubs, Warlock seats, 2nd gen center console
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And a few jeeps for good measure.