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Back in the fold
Its been a while, but I'm back and boy does it feel good!
While helping one of my co-workers try to find a new Ram HD truck, I stumbled across this beauty. While I wasn't in the market for a new truck, I couldn't pass on this opportunity to own a PW again. She's the same color as my old PW (Brilliant Black) and its awesome to say the least. The dealer actually had 7 PWs on their lot and they were all pretty reasonably priced. 4 were the tradesman version and 3 standard PWs. I opted for the Black Tradesman Version because I love the subdued look. The mods will start soon. The great thing about have a REG 2500 is that I can transfer over some of my mods to this new truck. I've got a K&N CAI that will be going in today or tomorrow. I'm looking for a throaty and moderately load muffler. I may do steering wheel controls but a Line-X bed is in my future.
So here are some comparisons that I have coming from a 5th Gen Standard 2500 w/6.4 vs a 5th Gen PW:
Ride Quality
In terms of ride quality, the difference is night and day. While the rear coil springs on the 2015 2500 were a lot softer than leaf springs, but this new PW runs circles around a normal 2500. On the way to the dealership, the freeway roads were incredibly rough and in the 2500 you felt every bump. The PW took those same roads much easier. You felt the larger bumps, but I didn't even notice the smaller ones. Also, you really notice the 2 inch ride height increase. I haven't noticed a large difference in fuel economy, but I have noticed that the PW stays in "ECO" mode more than regular 2500 did. I
4.10 gears vs 3.73 gears
3.73 gears made my previous truck feel like it couldn't get out of its own way at lower rpms (1500-1900). Don't get me wrong, the truck moved when I put pedal to the floor, but a times the 6.4 just felt bogged down. Now I know the 6.4 makes its power in the higher RPM bands, but between the lower(numerically) gears made the 66rfe shift a lot. On flat highway roads, it did very well. On longer trips, it could manage between 17-19 mpgs hand calculated. But I live about 25 minutes from my job and the roads are mostly hilly two lane country roads (55 MPH speed limit).
4.10 gears feel much better. Acceleration was better (obviously) and the truck doesn't bog nearly as much comparatively speaking. Time will tell how this compares to the 3.73 gears, but it seemed to take the back country hills much better. Highway driving was nice as well. The 4.10s allowed the 6.4 and 66rfe to hold the MDS mode with relative ease.
Other odds and ends:
The PW has a floor shifting transfer case vs the electronic version on the 2500. Even though everything is CPU controlled and it probably doesn't make a difference, I find this version to be superior.
The PW has the 3.0 Uconnect vs the 2500's 5.0 Uconnect. The 5.0 was a touch screen with a larger screen vs the small button controlled 3.0. Although it is a minor change/inconvenience, it still a change that needs to be noted. I can still utilize Sirius XM radio which is a major plus. Everything else is pretty much the same.
The PW has a rearview parking camera. This is a nice upgrade and I was looking to install one in the 2500 at some point. It shows up in the rearview mirror but still functions like any other one that I have seen.
The biggest change is the Rambox. The 2500 had the Rambox where as the Tradesman PW is not available with it. I personally never really used the Rambox as much as some people. It was great for grocery shopping, storing straps, or putting things up for safe keeping that I didn't necessarily want in the cab, but I honestly don't think the benefit is worth the loss of space in the bed. Plus I noticed that the boxes never truly lined up with the bed. Maybe its just me being OCD, but I didn't like that small flaw.
Everything else is pretty much the same but its funny how the PW just has a much more aggressive look to it when compared to a similarly equipped 2500. It just looks bad ass! I have to say the 2500 just felt like a truck where as the PW feels better!
Anyway, here's some pics of both. Its good to be back and look forward to posting in here more often! ABN!
While helping one of my co-workers try to find a new Ram HD truck, I stumbled across this beauty. While I wasn't in the market for a new truck, I couldn't pass on this opportunity to own a PW again. She's the same color as my old PW (Brilliant Black) and its awesome to say the least. The dealer actually had 7 PWs on their lot and they were all pretty reasonably priced. 4 were the tradesman version and 3 standard PWs. I opted for the Black Tradesman Version because I love the subdued look. The mods will start soon. The great thing about have a REG 2500 is that I can transfer over some of my mods to this new truck. I've got a K&N CAI that will be going in today or tomorrow. I'm looking for a throaty and moderately load muffler. I may do steering wheel controls but a Line-X bed is in my future.
So here are some comparisons that I have coming from a 5th Gen Standard 2500 w/6.4 vs a 5th Gen PW:
Ride Quality
In terms of ride quality, the difference is night and day. While the rear coil springs on the 2015 2500 were a lot softer than leaf springs, but this new PW runs circles around a normal 2500. On the way to the dealership, the freeway roads were incredibly rough and in the 2500 you felt every bump. The PW took those same roads much easier. You felt the larger bumps, but I didn't even notice the smaller ones. Also, you really notice the 2 inch ride height increase. I haven't noticed a large difference in fuel economy, but I have noticed that the PW stays in "ECO" mode more than regular 2500 did. I
4.10 gears vs 3.73 gears
3.73 gears made my previous truck feel like it couldn't get out of its own way at lower rpms (1500-1900). Don't get me wrong, the truck moved when I put pedal to the floor, but a times the 6.4 just felt bogged down. Now I know the 6.4 makes its power in the higher RPM bands, but between the lower(numerically) gears made the 66rfe shift a lot. On flat highway roads, it did very well. On longer trips, it could manage between 17-19 mpgs hand calculated. But I live about 25 minutes from my job and the roads are mostly hilly two lane country roads (55 MPH speed limit).
4.10 gears feel much better. Acceleration was better (obviously) and the truck doesn't bog nearly as much comparatively speaking. Time will tell how this compares to the 3.73 gears, but it seemed to take the back country hills much better. Highway driving was nice as well. The 4.10s allowed the 6.4 and 66rfe to hold the MDS mode with relative ease.
Other odds and ends:
The PW has a floor shifting transfer case vs the electronic version on the 2500. Even though everything is CPU controlled and it probably doesn't make a difference, I find this version to be superior.
The PW has the 3.0 Uconnect vs the 2500's 5.0 Uconnect. The 5.0 was a touch screen with a larger screen vs the small button controlled 3.0. Although it is a minor change/inconvenience, it still a change that needs to be noted. I can still utilize Sirius XM radio which is a major plus. Everything else is pretty much the same.
The PW has a rearview parking camera. This is a nice upgrade and I was looking to install one in the 2500 at some point. It shows up in the rearview mirror but still functions like any other one that I have seen.
The biggest change is the Rambox. The 2500 had the Rambox where as the Tradesman PW is not available with it. I personally never really used the Rambox as much as some people. It was great for grocery shopping, storing straps, or putting things up for safe keeping that I didn't necessarily want in the cab, but I honestly don't think the benefit is worth the loss of space in the bed. Plus I noticed that the boxes never truly lined up with the bed. Maybe its just me being OCD, but I didn't like that small flaw.
Everything else is pretty much the same but its funny how the PW just has a much more aggressive look to it when compared to a similarly equipped 2500. It just looks bad ass! I have to say the 2500 just felt like a truck where as the PW feels better!
Anyway, here's some pics of both. Its good to be back and look forward to posting in here more often! ABN!
Last edited by Calvinm119 on Sun Apr 16, 2017 3:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2017 Ram Power Wagon Tradesman:
Mods so far: K&N CAI, Weathertech floor mats, resonator delete, RBP Powder Coated Tip, Dodge Off Road Steering Box Brace
Gone but never forgotten:
2015 Ram 2500 Blue Streak Pearl: Tradesman w/ 6.4L Hemi, Rambox, electronic transfer case, 3.73s, LSD, BLD, Chrome appearance package, tailgate extender.
Mods so far- Mopar clearance Lights, Linex in bed, K&N CAI, Weathertech floor mats
2006 Dodge Ram Power Wagon
Mods so far: K&N CAI, Weathertech floor mats, resonator delete, RBP Powder Coated Tip, Dodge Off Road Steering Box Brace
Gone but never forgotten:
2015 Ram 2500 Blue Streak Pearl: Tradesman w/ 6.4L Hemi, Rambox, electronic transfer case, 3.73s, LSD, BLD, Chrome appearance package, tailgate extender.
Mods so far- Mopar clearance Lights, Linex in bed, K&N CAI, Weathertech floor mats
2006 Dodge Ram Power Wagon
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Congrats! Let the mods begin.
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Nice truck, congrats...
Vehicle: 2007 Power Wagon Quad Cab - Factory Options (Inferno Red, Premium Cloth Bench Seat, Light Group, Automatic Transmission, Leather Steering Wheel)
Suspension: Carli 3" Hemi Coils, Carli Control Arms, Carli King 2.5 Pin-Tops, Carli Stainless Steering Stabilizer, Carli Trackbar | Synergy 1" Rear Shackle
Performance: Magnaflow Muffler | Magnaflow Y-Pipe
Wheels/Tires: Yokohama X-A/T 35x12.5x17
Steering/Drivetrain/Axles: Carli Front Diff Guard | Dynatrac Ball Joints | Mopar HD Steering Gear
Miscellaneous: Line-X Bedliner | Locker Bypass Switch | Mopar Rock Rails | Odyssey Extreme 65-PC1750T | Performance Friction Brake Pads | Weathertech Digital Fit Mats | Winch Thermal Protection Bypass
Suspension: Carli 3" Hemi Coils, Carli Control Arms, Carli King 2.5 Pin-Tops, Carli Stainless Steering Stabilizer, Carli Trackbar | Synergy 1" Rear Shackle
Performance: Magnaflow Muffler | Magnaflow Y-Pipe
Wheels/Tires: Yokohama X-A/T 35x12.5x17
Steering/Drivetrain/Axles: Carli Front Diff Guard | Dynatrac Ball Joints | Mopar HD Steering Gear
Miscellaneous: Line-X Bedliner | Locker Bypass Switch | Mopar Rock Rails | Odyssey Extreme 65-PC1750T | Performance Friction Brake Pads | Weathertech Digital Fit Mats | Winch Thermal Protection Bypass
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Enjoy your new truck!
Thanks for the write-up & comparison.
Thanks for the write-up & comparison.
Trucks: 2003 4x4 Dodge 3/4 ton, 1972 4x4 Ford 3/4 ton (factory hi-boy), shopping for new Power Wagon (maybe 2024?)
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congrats...
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Nice, congrats.
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Congrats! Nice Truck
2016 Tradesman White, adding mods now, 37 Ridge Grapplers on Method Standards 17 x 8.5 x 5.75 BS, Thuren Overland front 1.5" Kit. SLT Grill, Mopar Steps. More Thuren stuff soon....
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Nice truck; and thank you for the comparison notes,,,,Enjoy !!
2005 Mineral Grey; QC- #0666: "Laramie", power heated Leather seats, tow mirrors, dual zones, Alpine 9 speaker surround sound, steering wheel cruise control, music & volume controls; remote start, 6 CD player, AC; dark charcoal silver interior.
Additions: Frame mounted .188 DOM 3" steel rock rails, low profile steps;1.5” Skyjacker leveling kit; Bully Dog GT Platinum A-pillar mount programmable performance chip, monitor,& tuner; Linex Platinum OTR HD bed/rock panel coating; Red Ryder cab high fiberglass canopy; 2” Linex brush guard w/4-4” Halogen off road lights; Hopkins Trailer Mate brake controller; Bearcat Pro 68XL CB; Mopar black fender flares; PW winch accessory kit/remote control.
Tools: hand tools, 60” Extreme High Lift; rigging; straps; shackles; F&R chains; (2ea) rear wheel well NATO 20 L narrow gas cans & 5# extinguishers
Updates: Jasper Remfgr’d 5.7 Hemi Engine; Open Range AT 35x12.5 x17 MP3 10 ply E tires; Moog HD U/L front axle ball joints & wheel bearings; new link, sway, y bar & bushing assemblies; fuel pump; ETC; AC exhaust fan & compressor;1 ton HEMI transmission cooler; OEM radiator; front pinion seal & bearing; Denso 180-amp alternator; Interstate 850 CCA HD battery; water pump, serpentine belt, Bilstein 2 5100 shocks/HD steering damper; F&R locker motors,sensors/u joints; 3" Magna flow cat back rear exit dual exhausts; Performance Brake/slotted rotor/caliper/pads/brake lines
Additions: Frame mounted .188 DOM 3" steel rock rails, low profile steps;1.5” Skyjacker leveling kit; Bully Dog GT Platinum A-pillar mount programmable performance chip, monitor,& tuner; Linex Platinum OTR HD bed/rock panel coating; Red Ryder cab high fiberglass canopy; 2” Linex brush guard w/4-4” Halogen off road lights; Hopkins Trailer Mate brake controller; Bearcat Pro 68XL CB; Mopar black fender flares; PW winch accessory kit/remote control.
Tools: hand tools, 60” Extreme High Lift; rigging; straps; shackles; F&R chains; (2ea) rear wheel well NATO 20 L narrow gas cans & 5# extinguishers
Updates: Jasper Remfgr’d 5.7 Hemi Engine; Open Range AT 35x12.5 x17 MP3 10 ply E tires; Moog HD U/L front axle ball joints & wheel bearings; new link, sway, y bar & bushing assemblies; fuel pump; ETC; AC exhaust fan & compressor;1 ton HEMI transmission cooler; OEM radiator; front pinion seal & bearing; Denso 180-amp alternator; Interstate 850 CCA HD battery; water pump, serpentine belt, Bilstein 2 5100 shocks/HD steering damper; F&R locker motors,sensors/u joints; 3" Magna flow cat back rear exit dual exhausts; Performance Brake/slotted rotor/caliper/pads/brake lines
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Welcome back!
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SuperChips FlashPaq; DT ProFab Steering Brace; 08.5 Steering linkage (twice); Toyo Open Country M/T 35/12.50x17; Carli front diff guard; Rockcrusher rear diff cover; White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails; Carli 3"coils, track bar, and High Clearance Control Arms; Carli King 2.5" Remote Resi Shocks; Reflex spray-in liner; Extang Trifecta tonneau cover; Pop Lock electric tailgate lock (OOS); Tekonsha Prodigy brake control; LEDS & Strobes & Siren; Winch TPS Bypass; Warn Wireless Remote; Dog hair, and a BIG Wish List!
WINCH MOB PROUD!
SuperChips FlashPaq; DT ProFab Steering Brace; 08.5 Steering linkage (twice); Toyo Open Country M/T 35/12.50x17; Carli front diff guard; Rockcrusher rear diff cover; White Knuckle Offroad Rock Rails; Carli 3"coils, track bar, and High Clearance Control Arms; Carli King 2.5" Remote Resi Shocks; Reflex spray-in liner; Extang Trifecta tonneau cover; Pop Lock electric tailgate lock (OOS); Tekonsha Prodigy brake control; LEDS & Strobes & Siren; Winch TPS Bypass; Warn Wireless Remote; Dog hair, and a BIG Wish List!
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haha "not in the market"....
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2006 Power Wagon-6spd, rear air bags, Diff Guards:Carli F. RockCrusher R., matching rim for spare tire, removed back seat for storage----I own the following: 2005 Hallmark pop-top Camper---1970 Scout 800 4x4 w/232ci 6cyl 4spd---2006 Yamaha XT225 Dual Sport---Pictures @ https://www.flickr.com/photos/powerwagon/collections