5.13 R+P for 10.5"

loveracing1988 · Post by **loveracing1988** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:57 pm

2wagons1driveway wrote:Who has the info for the gear swap on here for the new 2014 wagon? Can't remember what the thread was called! Need some info on the new rear ends in the wagons the 13+ trucks. Is it an aam still? A 11.5 or an 11.8? I presume the locker is still same idea... Debating putting an 11.5 in my truck and swapping to 5.13's within the year but I really want to keep factory smart bar controller and I love the idea of the posi and the elocker in the rear. Can't find any aftermarket companies who make the same thing for the 11.5 dodges

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Yes it is an 11.5 aam, the locker is of the same basic style as the 10.5.

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:05 am

loveracing1988 wrote:
2wagons1driveway wrote:Who has the info for the gear swap on here for the new 2014 wagon? Can't remember what the thread was called! Need some info on the new rear ends in the wagons the 13+ trucks. Is it an aam still? A 11.5 or an 11.8? I presume the locker is still same idea... Debating putting an 11.5 in my truck and swapping to 5.13's within the year but I really want to keep factory smart bar controller and I love the idea of the posi and the elocker in the rear. Can't find any aftermarket companies who make the same thing for the 11.5 dodges

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Yes it is an 11.5 aam, the locker is of the same basic style as the 10.5.

this seems like easiest swap over then... Same style locker should
Use the same sensory system for locked and unlocked. Hmmmmm

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2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:15 am

Now for next questions will a 513 ring and pinion fit on a factory 13+ carrier? I know the 4.88's do from whoever did the swap last but 5.13's?

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loveracing1988 · Post by **loveracing1988** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:13 am

2wagons1driveway wrote:Now for next questions will a 513 ring and pinion fit on a factory 13+ carrier? I know the 4.88's do from whoever did the swap last but 5.13's?

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Anything above at least 4.10 should.

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:38 am

Perfect. Just have to find out if carriers are swappable now. From 14 carrier to an 11-12 housing.

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2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:20 pm

Just talked to nitro gears said we'd need 200 guys to commit to buying 5.13's and they would make them for the 10.5 lol :/
Doesn't sound that attainable lol
Also a 2014 carrier will not fit in the 2003-2012 11.5 aam. Totally different. Also the new 11.8 in the bigger radius arm trucks is the same rear gear design so nitro will be switching over the 11.5" aam gear sets to 11.8 aam gear sets which are compatible in both axles. However carrier will not swap over. Basically have to look Into modifying a 2013-2015 p.wagon axle housing to leaf spring status to make it work if you want a helical limited slip with a elocker like factory.

Or you run an arb open diff with air locker 11.5 aam

Also the front gears will fit factory carrier in the front he thinks no problem. Said because the gear carrier is a side to side adjust should have no issues running a spacer plate and chev 9.25 FRONT cut gears...

Also the rep at nitro said the 5.13 in a 10.5 he figured would be plenty strong for most of our needs. Says the problem axles are smaller crown gears and can begin to get very weak when running the higher ratios

But for example a chev 10.5 with 5.38's is plenty strong.

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Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:08 pm

For the front I'm running Chevy gears with a spacer, but aam is now making 5.13's for the dodge carrier that don't need a spacer

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:15 pm

Well I'm probably going to copy your build then and start putting together a bullet proof 5.13 gears arb locked 11.5 probably with a truss too. Eff it why not lol

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Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:24 pm

I somewhat regret not trussing the rear lol. Probably not really necessary but too much isn't enough sometimes

05PWrockcrawler · Post by **05PWrockcrawler** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:14 pm

I need to see this truck offroad first before u do any more mods lol. You will have to re learn everything about your truck and how to drive it again. You changed everything lol.

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Colibri · Post by **Colibri** » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:01 pm

Haha it's true, definitely gonna be a learning curve involved

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:14 pm

It's gunna be sick!!! Bypass shocks and the 5.13's

Plus selectable locker running full spool
Out back

How did you say it?

"Power slide city" lmao

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Dodger · Post by **Dodger** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:18 pm

I would be interested. Maybe some would buy a spare set to help achieve the 200 sets needed to make the production run viable?

2wagons1driveway · Post by **2wagons1driveway** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:29 pm

11.5aam and 5.13's in

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