Frame strength
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Frame strength
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Russ
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2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
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Re: Frame strength
A guy at work said that the Furd had better articulation because it was harder to get the tire off the ground. When I asked about the doors and tailgate the response was, "who opens their doors or tailgate when doing off camber stuff like this?" The general public is so dumb!
He was also of the opinion that my PW is a 2" lifted 2500 Ram with a winch for $6,000 extra. That's what the Furd dealer told him when he bought his 2013 Furd 2500 King Ranch. When I told him what the extra money really got you he thought it was a decent deal.
The only thing he was right about however, is that the Ram seats suck and the Furd seats are excellent.
He was also of the opinion that my PW is a 2" lifted 2500 Ram with a winch for $6,000 extra. That's what the Furd dealer told him when he bought his 2013 Furd 2500 King Ranch. When I told him what the extra money really got you he thought it was a decent deal.
The only thing he was right about however, is that the Ram seats suck and the Furd seats are excellent.
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Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
Re: Frame strength
Hey now! I have 96k miles and 2750 hours on my seat and it's like my favorite pair of jeans or boots.azracer wrote:A guy at work said that the Furd had better articulation because it was harder to get the tire off the ground. When I asked about the doors and tailgate the response was, "who opens their doors or tailgate when doing off camber stuff like this?" The general public is so dumb!
He was also of the opinion that my PW is a 2" lifted 2500 Ram with a winch for $6,000 extra. That's what the Furd dealer told him when he bought his 2013 Furd 2500 King Ranch. When I told him what the extra money really got you he thought it was a decent deal.
The only thing he was right about however, is that the Ram seats suck and the Furd seats are excellent.
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Frame strength
The seats in my 2004 Ram were pretty good, but the seats in my 2012 are awesome. It's like I'm driving around in a big recliner.
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Re: Frame strength
Man, good video. Its pretty hilarious if you read the comments...some people really get bent out shape (pun intended) saying that the Dodge's frame was strengthened aftermarket and such. To any Ford owner, just bring up the Raptor...somehow they managed to build a truck with shocks stronger than the frame...albeit aftermarket shocks. As far as I'm aware...they're the only company that you can buy aftermarket frame stiffeners for a vehicle thats not a unibody and I'm pretty sure people like Carli and Thuren are launching trucks that weigh a hell of a lot more a hell of a lot higher.
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Re: Frame strength
You mean like this? I love this video: http://youtu.be/DvLMwAImyIsbstefanic wrote:Man, good video. Its pretty hilarious if you read the comments...some people really get bent out shape (pun intended) saying that the Dodge's frame was strengthened aftermarket and such. To any Ford owner, just bring up the Raptor...somehow they managed to build a truck with shocks stronger than the frame...albeit aftermarket shocks. As far as I'm aware...they're the only company that you can buy aftermarket frame stiffeners for a vehicle thats not a unibody and I'm pretty sure people like Carli and Thuren are launching trucks that weigh a hell of a lot more a hell of a lot higher.
You have to admit though- this Raptor takes one hell of a leap (not a great landing though) http://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU
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Re: Frame strength
Damn! That Raptor folded up like a wet rag!
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Frame strength
I wish I had enough money so I could go out and wreck a $45k truck in less than a minute, and still have money left to pay for future medical bills.04Ram2500Hemi wrote:You have to admit though- this Raptor takes one hell of a leap (not a great landing though) http://youtu.be/JKQdlXvbWSU
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Re: Frame strength
Pretty sure I cried because I was laughing so hard the first time I saw that Raptor jump.
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Re: Frame strength
Then there is this vid on frame strength: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKMQjm7i2Jw
And this vid for people who don't know shit about trucks & especially the Power Wagon. No Power wagon in "traction test" on rollers and no Dodge/Ram in frame test either..........Hmmmm, they are not trying to be biased are they ???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7qEuaXeGo
And this vid for people who don't know shit about trucks & especially the Power Wagon. No Power wagon in "traction test" on rollers and no Dodge/Ram in frame test either..........Hmmmm, they are not trying to be biased are they ???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr7qEuaXeGo
Re: Frame strength
And for the record, notice the crimp going down the side of my truck? Do you see any misalignment?
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Frame strength
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Re: Frame strength
2014 Ram 1500 4x4 Outdoorsman
Retro Shop Custom FXR Projectors | Diablo inTune | Moe's 87mm TB | BT Oil Catch Can
Toyo A/T II Tires | Bilstein 5100 Front and Rear Shocks | Movotech UCA's
AirLift 100 Air Bags | Bestop PowerBoards | RollBak Bed Cover | BedRug
Re: Frame strength
They must've made the '10's stronger than the '12's
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Frame strength
If you look at your pic from the front flex you'll see the same bed to cab misalignment. It's not much but it's there...
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Toyo A/T II Tires | Bilstein 5100 Front and Rear Shocks | Movotech UCA's
AirLift 100 Air Bags | Bestop PowerBoards | RollBak Bed Cover | BedRug
Re: Frame strength
Shhh hehehe. Still better than most
2010 with 37" hooves, controlled by numerous Thuren parts and Thuren Custom King 2.5's (Moved to a new home)
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Frame strength
Dodge frame strength (on the 3/4 & 1 tons) is the reason that Chevy boxed theirs in, then made those vids to DAZZLE the uneducated truck buyers with. (Like they did with the (4wd but in 2wd) Chevy w/rear locker vs open diff front & rear 4wd Ford & Dodge.) My 04 2500 Dodge Ram QC was also fully boxed from front to rear. I think the pre-2015 F-150 (NOT the Raptor) frame twists less than the F-350 in those vids. NOTE: Ford will be dropping the fully boxed frame on it's F150's for 2015. It will only have "sections" of the frame that are boxed, the rest will be like this: [ ] or c-channel, once again, creating a shelf for salt & grit & dirt to set on & help rust them out quicker.
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Re: Frame strength
Less weight, better fuel mileage. The faster you buy another one after it rusts out.TwinStick wrote:Dodge frame strength (on the 3/4 & 1 tons) is the reason that Chevy boxed theirs in, then made those vids to DAZZLE the uneducated truck buyers with. (Like they did with the (4wd but in 2wd) Chevy w/rear locker vs open diff front & rear 4wd Ford & Dodge.) My 04 2500 Dodge Ram QC was also fully boxed from front to rear. I think the pre-2015 F-150 (NOT the Raptor) frame twists less than the F-350 in those vids. NOTE: Ford will be dropping the fully boxed frame on it's F150's for 2015. It will only have "sections" of the frame that are boxed, the rest will be like this: [ ] or c-channel, once again, creating a shelf for salt & grit & dirt to set on & help rust them out quicker.
PWOC #53
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.