Locker Bypass Rebirth

[Retired BLM Rig]

In other news... After reverse engineering this locker bypass system and finding all the components, I had success communicating with CajunPW, who was the last person to sell this system. It turns out I'll be buying all his old inventory of parts, as well as all the supporting documents and info about this product. So this won't be a bootleg system after all, it's gonna be the real deal!

The big difference is, this time the 3rd Gen's are included!

[DamageWagon]

So the secret code to communicate with Cajun was only unlocked after you had fully reverse engineered the thing

[RustyPW]

Question on the 3G. Will it have a separate switch like the older bypasses, or it goes through the factory knob?

[RustyPW]

Question on the 3G. Will it have a separate switch like the older bypasses, or it goes through the factory knob?

[Retired BLM Rig]

Question on the 3G. Will it have a separate switch like the older bypasses, or it goes through the factory knob?

It will function through the factory knob.
It’s going to use a different control box housing mounted behind the knee bolster under the steering column. I tried finding a good location in the engine compartment to mount the control box, but it just seems too tight. Since the T harness needs to plug in under the dashboard, it just seems easiest to mount the control box under the dashboard as well and then route the harness to the fuse box and lockers. I should be building a prototype this weekend.

[RustyPW]

Question on the 3G. Will it have a separate switch like the older bypasses, or it goes through the factory knob?

It will function through the factory knob.
It’s going to use a different control box housing mounted behind the knee bolster under the steering column. I tried finding a good location in the engine compartment to mount the control box, but it just seems too tight. Since the T harness needs to plug in under the dashboard, it just seems easiest to mount the control box under the dashboard as well and then route the harness to the fuse box and lockers. I should be building a prototype this weekend.

What would the price be?

[Retired BLM Rig]

What would the price be?

It's looking like all of these kits are going to be $450 to start with. If I can find better prices on the components from different vendors, the price will come down. A portion of the money from each unit will be donated to PWR for providing a platform to make this all possible.

[aleelopez]

[06 Arizona Wagon]

Please put me down for a 3rd gen kit 2006. Can not thank you enough for making these....
Kevin
06 Arizona Wagon

[Retired BLM Rig]

The current locker bypass list:

1. Lancer29 (2005)(Building a prototype 12/2 thru 12/3)
2. Olyelr (2016)
3. AlaskaTRX (2017)
4. TankerZak (2016)
5. EasyDoesIt (2018)
6. Jakestopp244 (Late 2012)
7. RamV (2016)
8. Snowho (2018)
9. w2dodge (2005)
10. aleelopez (2008)
11. Idaho RC (2017)
12. 06 Arizona Wagon (2006)

[olyelr]

Quick few questions on these units...

So this setup essentially bypasses the brains in the smart bar, correct?

Using this setup should essentially make it much quicker for the lockers to lock/unlock, correct?

When in 4-low with this setup, it still by-passes all the brains in the smartbar, correct?




My main reason for wanting this is to get a much quicker lock/unlock response out of the lockers. I typically prefer to drive around unlocked until I know I need them, and with this stock setup it is almost a joke to be able to do that. I may have just gotten spoiled with my Rubicon, but those damn things were instant on and off every time (which were by-passed). Different animal, I know, but that is what I am hoping for with this kit.

[Retired BLM Rig]

Quick few questions on these units...

So this setup essentially bypasses the brains in the smart bar, correct?

Using this setup should essentially make it much quicker for the lockers to lock/unlock, correct?

When in 4-low with this setup, it still by-passes all the brains in the smartbar, correct?

My main reason for wanting this is to get a much quicker lock/unlock response out of the lockers. I typically prefer to drive around unlocked until I know I need them, and with this stock setup it is almost a joke to be able to do that. I may have just gotten spoiled with my Rubicon, but those damn things were instant on and off every time (which were by-passed). Different animal, I know, but that is what I am hoping for with this kit.

Yeah, this should probably be called a “SmartBar Locker Bypass”. So yes, it bypasses the brains in the SmartBar and gives you direct control of the lockers. It’s basically plug and play hardwired lockers using the O.E. dash knob, and yes it makes it instant on and off in any transfer case range. No more blinking locker light!

[Retired BLM Rig]

It's been a long day.

The first ever 3rd Gen. control box and T-harness.

Comparing the new, smaller 3rd Gen. control box on the left to the original 4th Gen. control box on the right.

A little different layout internally.

A little shorter to fit under the dashboard better

Tomorrow, finish the harness, test install, write new installation instructions, box it up and ship it out.
This one has your name on it Lancer29.

[Retired BLM Rig]

The current locker bypass list:

1. Lancer29 (2005)(Building a prototype 12/2 thru 12/3)
2. Olyelr (2016) On hold until after the holidays
3. AlaskaTRX (2017)
4. TankerZak (2016)
5. EasyDoesIt (2018)
6. Jakestopp244 (Late 2012)
7. RamV (2016)
8. Snowho (2018)
9. w2dodge (2005)
10. aleelopez (2008)
11. Idaho RC (2017)
12. 06 Arizona Wagon (2006)
13. RPS1030 (2016)

[Mule007]

Good work Retired BLM Rig, WOW am impressed! Thank you !

[lancer29]

It's been a long day.


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Tomorrow, finish the harness, test install, write new installation instructions, box it up and ship it out.
This one has your name on it Lancer29.

Fantastic! Thanks so much for your work on this. Just PM me and we can work out the payment and shipping details. Thanks again.

[RustyPW]

Quick few questions on these units...

So this setup essentially bypasses the brains in the smart bar, correct?

Using this setup should essentially make it much quicker for the lockers to lock/unlock, correct?

When in 4-low with this setup, it still by-passes all the brains in the smartbar, correct?

My main reason for wanting this is to get a much quicker lock/unlock response out of the lockers. I typically prefer to drive around unlocked until I know I need them, and with this stock setup it is almost a joke to be able to do that. I may have just gotten spoiled with my Rubicon, but those damn things were instant on and off every time (which were by-passed). Different animal, I know, but that is what I am hoping for with this kit.

Yeah, this should probably be called a “SmartBar Locker Bypass”. So yes, it bypasses the brains in the SmartBar and gives you direct control of the lockers. It’s basically plug and play hardwired lockers using the O.E. dash knob, and yes it makes it instant on and off in any transfer case range. No more blinking locker light!

This answered the other question I had running around in my head.

Put me in for one too. 3G 2008.

[olyelr]

Yeah, this should probably be called a “SmartBar Locker Bypass”. So yes, it bypasses the brains in the SmartBar and gives you direct control of the lockers. It’s basically plug and play hardwired lockers using the O.E. dash knob, and yes it makes it instant on and off in any transfer case range. No more blinking locker light!

Thats what I wanted to hear!

Do you have instructions made up for this yet? If so can you post up a picture of them? Just curious what all is entailed.... a man of my caliber will probably mindfawk this install for two days before taking a full day to actually install it.

[Bill2014]

This is indeed awesome work!!!

Common sense warning - I hope we all understand the following:
Everyone needs to be aware that there can be some severe consequences if the dial now inadvertently gets switched on - on the highway at high speed - by a child or wife - and either or both differentials actually lock up. Just imagine the possibilities... Also, don't ever turn the dial when you are stuck with the wheels spinning...

[Retired BLM Rig]

This is indeed awesome work!!!

Common sense warning - I hope we all understand the following:
Everyone needs to be aware that there can be some severe consequences if the dial now inadvertently gets switched on - on the highway at high speed - by a child or wife - and either or both differentials actually lock up. Just imagine the possibilities... Also, don't ever turn the dial when you are stuck with the wheels spinning...

All valid points to be aware of. There's about 100 of these out in the wild from previous builders, I wonder if anyone with an original unit has ever experienced accidental engagement?
The easiest way to overcome this fear is to just pull the fuse if you know that you're not going to be using it, or put a toggle switch on the ground wire.

[TankerZak]

This is indeed awesome work!!!

Common sense warning - I hope we all understand the following:
Everyone needs to be aware that there can be some severe consequences if the dial now inadvertently gets switched on - on the highway at high speed - by a child or wife - and either or both differentials actually lock up. Just imagine the possibilities... Also, don't ever turn the dial when you are stuck with the wheels spinning...

All valid points to be aware of. There's about 100 of these out in the wild from previous builders, I wonder if anyone with an original unit has ever experienced accidental engagement?
The easiest way to overcome this fear is to just pull the fuse if you know that you're not going to be using it, or put a toggle switch on the ground wire.

Anyway to wire in a disable switch?

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[Bill2014]

This is indeed awesome work!!!

Common sense warning - I hope we all understand the following:
Everyone needs to be aware that there can be some severe consequences if the dial now inadvertently gets switched on - on the highway at high speed - by a child or wife - and either or both differentials actually lock up. Just imagine the possibilities... Also, don't ever turn the dial when you are stuck with the wheels spinning...

All valid points to be aware of. There's about 100 of these out in the wild from previous builders, I wonder if anyone with an original unit has ever experienced accidental engagement?
The easiest way to overcome this fear is to just pull the fuse if you know that you're not going to be using it, or put a toggle switch on the ground wire.

Anyway to wire in a disable switch?

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A bypass bypass

[Low_Sky]

All valid points to be aware of. There's about 100 of these out in the wild from previous builders, I wonder if anyone with an original unit has ever experienced accidental engagement?
The easiest way to overcome this fear is to just pull the fuse if you know that you're not going to be using it, or put a toggle switch on the ground wire.

Anyway to wire in a disable switch?

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A bypass bypass

I was thinking the same thing but I wasn’t gonna say it.


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[olyelr]

Joke all you want. I think its a good idea. Seriously. David, you say simply wire in a switch on the ground... can you do this on mine (without much extra trouble) while you are making it? Or is that something that I would have to add in when I get it. I honestly want it like that.

Thats the way I had my rubicon setup, and it even had added switches for the lockers. But in order for them to work, I had to flick a toggle switch first. Loved that setup.

[RustyPW]

I have one of the very first bypasses. Just pissing around with it. I locked my rear axle down go the highway at 70 mph just to see if it would lock, and unlock. It will without much drama. Making a turn with it locked. The PW wanted to push the front to the outside of the turn. But it will turn.