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Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:25 am
by TwinStick
" but most of the service techs have never seen one before either . "

THAT IS bad for anyone needing their truck worked on. They should have a PW guru, travel around to dealer technicians & train them on the differences. :rockon:

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:49 am
by Reloaderguy
I don't know why but I was shopping between 10 different PW in Southern Idaho. The dealer's there all had them. Montana too.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:12 pm
by Wirebrush
Not all that uncommon around here. Just last week I took mine to the car wash and ended up in line behind another one. In a town of about 50k I've seen several and there's at least a couple on the dealer lot right now.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:35 pm
by walc
In the Washington DC Metro Area, where I bought mine, there are plenty of 2016 Power Wagons on dealer lots.
On Maryland's Eastern Shore, where I live, dealers never seem to get them. Probably because we have no hills or rocks; just sand and mud.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:54 pm
by olyelr
I have been searching around them for a few years now. Up here in northern MI, I have only seen a few in person. I have to drive over 100 miles to find one on the lot. Kind of sucks from a buyers point of view, but also cool because not everyone will have the same dang truck as you.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:01 pm
by Will
I've seen 3 total, mine, which they brought to me from out of state. One for sale at the local dealer, that I haven't seen since it sold or transferred a few years ago. And a white one that is somewhere around here. I've seen him about 4 times, he's an older fella that won't even look at me at a red light. :( Maybe he would if mine wasn't debadged, he always punches it and speeds through the traffic. :lol:

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:34 pm
by waldo
olyelr wrote:I have been searching around them for a few years now. Up here in northern MI, I have only seen a few in person. I have to drive over 100 miles to find one on the lot. Kind of sucks from a buyers point of view, but also cool because not everyone will have the same dang truck as you.
Yeah, I did the dealer search out a few hundred miles when I was looking for the 16. Not much around that I was interested in other than one I found in Oakland Maryland and they wanted to charge to remove the graphics. The few on the lots were usually loaded to the gills laramies with those stupid tow mirrors. So I ordered.

I've bought three new ones from the dealer I use, and I'm probably his biggest PW customer. :lol: They never order any just for the lot. In fact they don't really stock much in 2500-3500 trucks. I asked why and was told they just sell more 1500's by about a 20:1 margin and they end up getting stuck with the big trucks.

Different area, different demand, I guess.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:36 pm
by Vee
Lots of them here in Washington. When I bought my 07 this January, there were two on the lot where I bought mine, and one across the street. I see at least one a month driving around

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Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:09 pm
by Sweet5ltr
I've seen only one Power Wagon locally, in my lifetime. I had no idea that they even built something this ridiculous anymore, my father thought they discontinued them back in the late 70's. With such low production numbers, they surely must hold their value better than even a CTD. (15' PW's for example, accounted for only .7% of RAM production in the USA and Canada *.53% USA*, compare that to my 15' SRT @ 5.76% total production volume). I didn't see one for under $38,000 within a 500 mile radius.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:44 pm
by 06ryan27
The chart shows it, I didnt start seeing any until 15, thats when the numbers started rising up. Ive seen maybe 3 15ish's around here, my 07, another 07(because it was for sale), and a white 07-09. Thats it in the past 3 yrs pretty rare in my neck of the woods too. I dont even think the people driving them around here know what they are.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:24 pm
by TwinStick
" I dont even think the people driving them around here know what they are. "

This is true. I met a guy at a gas station (LOL imagine that :lol: ) with one. I started talking to him & he said the saleman said something about lockers but that was all & he had no idea how to use them. So, I showed him how to use them & do the "Power Wagon Shuffle" LOL :lol: to get them to engage. :doh:

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:11 pm
by RustyPW
I almost never see a 3G. The is a couple of 4G's running around here and there. But nothing local.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:15 pm
by MOPARManiac
PLMCRZY wrote: I did a little "research" on this issue. I think I figured out what went down with the 2005 sequentially numbered Power Wagon.

They reserved a block of VINs starting with 5G900001 and assigned VINs from that block to Power Wagon orders only. The block sequence beginning at 5G900001 (through 5G902672) has only Power Wagons builds, but the VINs are not completely contiguous. The minor "holes" I'm sure are canceled orders and such. Again, there are only Power Wagons built after 5G900001.

Also, even though most of the Power Wagon VINs are grouped together, they certainly were not assembled in one mass group. 5G900001 was built on 11/17/2004 and 5G902672 was built on 5/6/2005 (these are not necessarily the first and last PW builds!)

Where they screwed up is when they built the Pilot trucks. There are 53 surviving Pilots that were sold to the general public. Problem is they were assigned from the standard block of VINs for 2005 which began with 5G700001. First Power Wagon pilot was 5G700027 and the last PW pilot sequence was 5G720063. Some of these PW pilots are grouped sequentially, but many examples of "other" trucks having a VIN assigned among the Power Wagon pilots. So the sequential thing does not hold up for the pilots.

Another marketing ploy gone wrong I guess.

Hope this helps.

-=PLMCRZY=-
Great info, thanks for posting.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 10:12 pm
by TwinStick
My dealer has only sold 1 since my 08'. It was a red 2015. They now have a Blue 2016. Before mine, the last Power Wagon they sold was in 1956 !!! Before they sold out to Castilone (1 month after i took delivery of mine), Hawley Motors was the oldest family owned Dodge dealer in America. Pretty cool.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:07 pm
by fbenross
My 06 was made in Mex-why does it show none...Mine must be really really special stealth PW

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:19 pm
by PLMCRZY
fbenross wrote:My 06 was made in Mex-why does it show none...Mine must be really really special stealth PW
They were ALL made in Mexico. Production numbers are where they sold/shipped.

-=PLMCRZY=-

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:28 pm
by Ed1774
In my area I've seen maybe 8-10 other PW's since 2005. I did see a another 4th gen yesterday though.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 7:20 pm
by Retired BLM Rig
Thanks for your work to provide this info! :patriot:

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:48 pm
by PLMCRZY
I just added the 2016 and 2017 production numbers to the chart in the first post.

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Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:06 pm
by RustyPW
PLMCRZY wrote:I just added the 2016 and 2017 production numbers to the chart in the first post.

-=PLMCRZY=-
:rockon:

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:53 am
by FordyceCreekTrail
Well that's definitely an increase and good news. Only selling 600-800 some years does not bode well for long term model development. Really needs to be a lot more to be profitable still.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:59 am
by Ducky's Dad
I don't know why but I was shopping between 10 different PW in Southern Idaho.
Idaho seems to be the place to go for PWs. Word is that you can fly to Idaho, be picked up by the dealer shuttle, and then just drive your PW home. And save a pile of money in the process. When I bought my '05 in August of '05, the closest I could find was about 400 miles away and I pretty much bought it over the phone without ever having seen a PW in person.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:55 pm
by vanished
Ducky's Dad wrote:
I don't know why but I was shopping between 10 different PW in Southern Idaho.
Idaho seems to be the place to go for PWs. Word is that you can fly to Idaho, be picked up by the dealer shuttle, and then just drive your PW home. And save a pile of money in the process. When I bought my '05 in August of '05, the closest I could find was about 400 miles away and I pretty much bought it over the phone without ever having seen a PW in person.
I thought same thing - but nothing special there... could only match local dealer... maybe I had a crappy salesman...


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Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 9:25 am
by Shaved Ice
Thanks for updating. It was cool to find out that I have 1 of 177 2017 Laramies in the US market. My previous 2007 was 1 of 431.

Re: Dodge Ram Power Wagon Global Production Numbers 2005-201

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:15 pm
by RustyPW
Ducky's Dad wrote:
I don't know why but I was shopping between 10 different PW in Southern Idaho.
Idaho seems to be the place to go for PWs. Word is that you can fly to Idaho, be picked up by the dealer shuttle, and then just drive your PW home. And save a pile of money in the process. When I bought my '05 in August of '05, the closest I could find was about 400 miles away and I pretty much bought it over the phone without ever having seen a PW in person.
I had to order mine in '08. As there was nothing within a 1,000 mile radius at that time.