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Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:37 pm
by DamageWagon
Got to compare the two tires today so I thought I'd throw this up here if anyone is ever on the fence between the two. I am told by someone very knowledgeable that they have the same sidewall and tread construction and the load range difference is due only to the difference in contact patch. Both are 21/32" tread depth. Totally unscientific haha.
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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:48 pm
by olyelr
Is that not MikeKey's truck in the background?

So which ones you going with?

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:37 pm
by DamageWagon
Yeah that's MikeKey's truck. He did the 12.5's.

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:38 pm
by DamageWagon
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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:02 pm
by OffroadTreks
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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:06 pm
by yooper68
That tire tread pattern looks very, very similar to the new Yokohama Geolandar M/T G003, and also very similar to the Cooper Discoverer STT that I have (no longer available).

Should be a great tire, too bad it's so difficult to get Toyo's in these parts.

I have noticed that wider tires seem to be considerably noisier going down the road.

That sure is a funny looking bumper.....

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:22 pm
by DamageWagon
Yeah Yokohama straight stole that tread pattern. Curious to see how they perform, if they took any cues from their AT

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:24 pm
by Rodeoflyer
As much as those tires weigh it's probably better to stick with the 12.5's. They look great on the truck, perfect fit. Is that a strider folder?

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:56 pm
by Reloaderguy
Rodeoflyer wrote:As much as those tires weigh it's probably better to stick with the 12.5's. They look great on the truck, perfect fit. Is that a strider folder?

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:13 pm
by DamageWagon
It's a Zero Tolerance 0350. It's my favorite knife and I take it everywhere, but I can't call myself a collector. ImageImage

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:35 pm
by Rodeoflyer
Ah ZT yeah great knife.

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:43 pm
by Rodeoflyer
Reloaderguy wrote:
Rodeoflyer wrote:As much as those tires weigh it's probably better to stick with the 12.5's. They look great on the truck, perfect fit. Is that a strider folder?

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Lol I'm gonna go ahead and laugh that shit off.

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:43 pm
by Rodeoflyer
Reloaderguy wrote:
Rodeoflyer wrote:As much as those tires weigh it's probably better to stick with the 12.5's. They look great on the truck, perfect fit. Is that a strider folder?

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Lol I'm gonna go ahead and laugh that $hit off.

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:06 pm
by Reloaderguy
MikeKey wrote:Image
That looks great. The 13.5's would have been a huge headache with those wheels. Good choice.

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:39 pm
by stubiePW
Looks good!

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:32 pm
by Rodeoflyer
I often doze off and start dreaming about 37's.

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Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:35 pm
by gtomike60
I see you went to the Aaron Earles School of Bumper Building!??
Not very impressive :poke: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:37 pm
by gtomike60
He'd get a lot more rubbing with the 13.50s

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:07 am
by NickTF
DamageWagon wrote:Got to compare the two tires today so I thought I'd throw this up here if anyone is ever on the fence between the two. I am told by someone very knowledgeable that they have the same sidewall and tread construction and the load range difference is due only to the difference in contact patch. Both are 21/32" tread depth. Totally unscientific haha.
As someone who's about to be towing 7500lbs 3-4 times a month and is on the 12.5" D rated 17" tire i'm very interested to know if that is in fact the case or not.

Also, with a factory lift and the 12.5" wide 37" tire on a 18mm offset wheel I get occasional rubbing. The 13.5" tire is nearly 2" wider so no way they'd work in my circumstance. Those look like factory wheels is that your plan?

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:35 am
by israelstanage
DamageWagon wrote:It's a Zero Tolerance 0350. It's my favorite knife and I take it everywhere, but I can't call myself a collector. ImageImage
I carry the same knife. ZT's have a substantial feel that makes other knives feel inadequate.

Tires look great. I have decided that 37s are in order, just haven't landed on the MT's or RT's (my current tire, of the smaller 35 variety). How is the noise with the MT?

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:46 am
by OffroadTreks
NickTF wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:Got to compare the two tires today so I thought I'd throw this up here if anyone is ever on the fence between the two. I am told by someone very knowledgeable that they have the same sidewall and tread construction and the load range difference is due only to the difference in contact patch. Both are 21/32" tread depth. Totally unscientific haha.
As someone who's about to be towing 7500lbs 3-4 times a month and is on the 12.5" D rated 17" tire i'm very interested to know if that is in fact the case or not.

Also, with a factory lift and the 12.5" wide 37" tire on a 18mm offset wheel I get occasional rubbing. The 13.5" tire is nearly 2" wider so no way they'd work in my circumstance. Those look like factory wheels is that your plan?
They are factory wheels.
israelstanage wrote:How is the noise with the MT?
There is none. Toyo's a very quiet tire. Not a bro tire at all.

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:50 am
by NickTF
You will probably have less rubbing then I do on the outside rear of the fender; however, I don't think you'll be able to turn lock to lock.

My MTs are pretty noisy above 40mph but with the windows up nothing more than a subtle hum (these trucks appear to be well insulated even in my tradesman base trim). With the windows down they are definitely noisy.

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:53 am
by rkgzx9leftcoast
Looks Awesome. Did you, or could you get a measurement of the height, mounted on truck with what air pressure you have in them, Front is good.. Please... thanks !!! Just wondering for comparison with the Ridge Grapplers and R/T`s

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:04 am
by OffroadTreks
rkgzx9leftcoast wrote:Looks Awesome. Did you, or could you get a measurement of the height, mounted on truck with what air pressure you have in them, Front is good.. Please... thanks !!! Just wondering for comparison with the Ridge Grapplers and R/T`s

I took that yesterday actually after I brought it home from tire Depot. The filled her to Max PSI naturally. I've since reduced that, but this measurement is at 50psi from the ground.

Front Drivers Side:
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I had already recorded some others like my bump stop change and things. What I regret not measuring is the rocksliders ground to bottom. I kept my 35's to use as winter set, so I will take that measurement when I put them back on.

Re: Toyo MT 37x 12.5(D) vs 13.5(E)

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:12 am
by rkgzx9leftcoast
Thanks for the reply, was wondering what the tire measures itself mounted and on truck ... The wheel opening looks close to mine at the lip I think Im 44 3/4 or so. My Ridge grapplers are 36" or so with 40 lbs in them - stock rims, and grow over 36 with more air in them.

Thanks!