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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:20 pm
Someone please tell me how these springs will flex more than the stock springs. I'm about to install them but once I placed them alongside the stock pw springs they look like diesel springs.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:30 pm
Side by side.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:38 pm
I'm about to put my stock springs back on and call it a day. There's no way these are lift springs. I can tell they're a heavier weight spring which is likely how they achieve a .5 lift.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:10 pm
I went ahead and installed thurens springs. There is no way these flex like the stock springs imo.
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by Chromolykid » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:00 pm
I was gonna chime in but you answered your own question already. I had the same concerns when I compared them haha. Sticking with stock rears on mine though for the occasional heavy camp gear or race trailer.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:11 pm
After driving on them a bit my opinion is that they are much more linear in the rate, however the rate seems to be about the same. They just suck up larger hits much much better. I'm enjoying them so far.
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by Colibri » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:19 pm
Bigger shocks with those springs will work like automotive viagra whenever you're driving lol. Good work sir! Glad you're enjoying the new springs.
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by Reloaderguy » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:30 pm
Most retarded thread of the month.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:39 pm
Well here's the thing.... I still don't think they flex like the stock springs. They're just a more linear spring.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:44 pm
Reloaderguy wrote:Most retarded thread of the month.
I get the feeling you have some issues.
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by nts007 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:38 pm
It's that time of the month lol
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by Pit Slave » Sat Jul 01, 2017 7:56 pm
They work better because they were marinating in unicorn blood. And like a fine box wine, it get better with time...... or is it because you drink it over the period of the morning? I can't remember! But you get the idea, right?
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by Reloaderguy » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:17 pm
Rodeoflyer wrote:Reloaderguy wrote:Most retarded thread of the month.
I get the feeling you have some issues.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:48 pm
Took you a while. That's ok. If I recall someone else installed your springs so I wouldn't expect you to know what one looks like

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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:07 pm
It will be interesting to see if the rear Thuren springs have any lift. I'm at 42.5 f/44.5 rear with the Thuren .5'' fronts.
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by Reloaderguy » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:12 pm
Rodeoflyer wrote:Took you a while. That's ok. If I recall someone else installed your springs so I wouldn't expect you to know what one looks like

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Don installed them.
Thuren rear coils are either the same or slightly lower height than stock.
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by OffroadTreks » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:15 pm
Useless without a comparison. Put it on an RTI ramp.
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by Rodeoflyer » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:18 pm
Slightly lower in the rear would actually be preferable. I'd be happy with a 42.5 f/44 r rake.
I agree mikekey. It's just an assumption on my part. I did go off half cocked when I started this thread. It would be interesting to test it.
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by OffroadTreks » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:39 pm
Rodeoflyer wrote:Slightly lower in the rear would actually be preferable. I'd be happy with a 42.5 f/44 r rake.
I agree mikekey. It's just an assumption on my part. I did go off half cocked when I started this thread. It would be interesting to test it.
You're just ecoing my concerns. My email exchanges with Don have been interesting. I was told, those springs are 20% softer than the PW springs. Since they appear same height unloaded, I suspect loaded the Thurens compress less giving you the height in the front.
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by olyelr » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:20 am
MikeKey wrote:Rodeoflyer wrote:Slightly lower in the rear would actually be preferable. I'd be happy with a 42.5 f/44 r rake.
I agree mikekey. It's just an assumption on my part. I did go off half cocked when I started this thread. It would be interesting to test it.
You're just ecoing my concerns. My email exchanges with Don have been interesting. I was told, those springs are 20% softer than the PW springs. Since they appear same height unloaded, I suspect loaded the Thurens compress less giving you the height in the front.
If the springs are softer, and the same height unloaded, why would they give added height when loaded?
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by nts007 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:25 am
X2. Softer would compress more for the same static weight. Plus being the coils are thicker I would believe the coil would "stack" sooner than the stock coils
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by OffroadTreks » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:11 am
olyelr wrote:MikeKey wrote:Rodeoflyer wrote:Slightly lower in the rear would actually be preferable. I'd be happy with a 42.5 f/44 r rake.
I agree mikekey. It's just an assumption on my part. I did go off half cocked when I started this thread. It would be interesting to test it.
You're just ecoing my concerns. My email exchanges with Don have been interesting. I was told, those springs are 20% softer than the PW springs. Since they appear same height unloaded, I suspect loaded the Thurens compress less giving you the height in the front.
If the springs are softer, and the same height unloaded, why would they give added height when loaded?
BINGO. So that's what I was told via email about softness from the horses mouth.
But looking at them, if they're the same height, then the only way to give more height would be to be stiffer, or am I wrong? See the conundrum. So which is it? What's the deal. Something doesn't add up.
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by olyelr » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:21 am
I find it hard to believe his coils are 20% softer than pw coils. Maybe 20% softer than the regular 2500 coils? Going by memory, I thought his site stated his srpings were 20% softer than the regular 2500 springs. Something aint jiving.
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by OffroadTreks » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:21 am
nts007 wrote:X2. Softer would compress more for the same static weight. Plus being the coils are thicker I would believe the coil would "stack" sooner than the stock coils
Progressive vs Linear ? Not sure that would explain it the more I think about it, but don't know.
The way progressive rate was always explained to me, if a linear spring compresses 1 inch for 100lbs of load and 2 inches for 200lbs of load, then a progressive rate would compress 1 inch for 100lbs, then 1.5 inches for 200lbs then 2 inches for 300lbs and get stiffer as more weight is added.
Dunno, just totally guessing.
