Diesel Power Wagon... Again..

vanished · Post by **vanished** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:55 am

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/0 ... wer-wagon/

For your reading enjoyment...

Bill2014 · Post by **Bill2014** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:09 pm

vanished wrote:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/0 ... wer-wagon/

For your reading enjoyment...

But as we know:
“Ram has no plans to offer the Power Wagon with a diesel.”

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:20 pm

My eyes are rolling into the back of my head again with these "Why doesn't the PW have a diesel?"

I have $50 that says Seth Parks the author of this article hasn't actually wheeled a Power Wagon. Usually, the calls always come from diesel owners. You'll notice no one on this forum is bitching regularly with multiple threads about why we didn't get a diesel. And the people calling for it, can never offer a reason why it should have one beyond "Torque is cool". Actually, after reading the whole article, he never offers a reason why. Just states that RAM is missing out on money or something to that effect.

He left out some other problems diesel pose offroad with all that added weight and stress on the front axle. Ram engineers elsewhere have stated that the diesel's oil pan sits lower and possess problems with protection and upward compression of the front suspension. All that weight, isn't necessarily a good thing in certain soft terrains either. I've seen plenty of "Diesel Bros" sink their trucks.

Considering the expense, I don't think I'd buy a diesel PW. I tow a lot and researched the hell out of reasons why I didn't want a diesel. And the extra expense and hassle were part of my decision to buy a gasser.

I think people just want the diesel because it seems cool. Considering our already reduced payload, I'm sure a diesel would only hurt the PW even further.

Shaved Ice · Post by **Shaved Ice** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:28 pm

I am sure a lot of people love the idea. The calling gets much smaller once you factor in who can actually afford it. The diesel option (~$6,500) plus the Power Wagon option (~$6,500) makes the Diesel Power Wagon demographic pretty small from a business perspective.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:42 pm

Small demographic, rarity = major cool factor.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Reloaderguy · Post by **Reloaderguy** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:49 pm

The cost savings on replacement gas caps alone should be enough to offset the diesel option.

waldo · Post by **waldo** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:49 pm

I won't shell out the extra $$ for a Cummins PW. This is coming from a guy that buys nothing but new Powerwagons (I'm on my third and have two right now).

I don't tow, and most of all the new diesels are encumbered with so much pollution crap that the juice isn't worth the squeeze based on mileage alone. More electronic crap and a blinker fluid tank to boot.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:53 pm

No inspection in New Jersey for diesel engine vehicles. All self inspection.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:29 pm

Something like a 4BT swap into a J80 Land Cruiser is cool. But I don't want a diesel in my Power Wagon. I like being able to hear my spotter without yelling too.

Reloaderguy · Post by **Reloaderguy** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:49 pm

MSCH2112 · Post by **MSCH2112** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:25 pm

hey i just bought one! oh wait...forgot i just sold the 2012 PW. But now i have the Cummins for towing. Found out last night on a search and rescue call the 2500 Cummins can never replicate a PW's suspension. AEV can't possibly improve the flex. Suprisingly the 20's aren't too bad, but i'm still thinking of 17" wheels with 285 tires.

Mike

MSCH2112 · Post by **MSCH2112** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:36 pm

Interior is way too nice.

Mike

MSCH2112 · Post by **MSCH2112** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:41 pm

and the day before i sold the 2012 PW....

Case tractor pulled me out from the rear....

Mike

Bill2014 · Post by **Bill2014** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:16 pm

With this thread we are just...

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YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:30 pm

Have you ever beat a dead horse though in real life? It's loads of fun. We used to do it all the time back in Virginia.

Bill2014 · Post by **Bill2014** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:55 pm

I see his lips moving - I just can't quite make out what he is saying?

Diesel... Power... Wagon...?

Any lip readers in the group?

Rodeoflyer · Post by **Rodeoflyer** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:40 pm

MSCH2112 wrote:Interior is way too nice.

Mike

Hey yours has an extra console. No fair. That silly shifter with all the 4hi/4lo/neutral mumbo jumbo is in the way on mine!

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YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:22 pm

I had the console in our 1500, and as much as I loved it. I love not having more now.

verdesardog · Post by **verdesardog** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:47 pm

MSCH2112 wrote:hey i just bought one! oh wait...forgot i just sold the 2012 PW. But now i have the Cummins for towing. Found out last night on a search and rescue call the 2500 Cummins can never replicate a PW's suspension. AEV can't possibly improve the flex. Suprisingly the 20's aren't too bad, but i'm still thinking of 17" wheels with 285 tires.

Mike

06 ctd leveled 315/70-17's.......

It's not a PW, has open diff's but gets me where I need to go and back.

Post by **Pit Slave** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:35 pm

Pit Slave wrote:No inspection in New Jersey for diesel engine vehicles. All self inspection.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

And, I am also now 100% exempt from all inspection too!

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Post by **DamageWagon** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Pit Slave wrote:
Pit Slave wrote:No inspection in New Jersey for diesel engine vehicles. All self inspection.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit
And, I am also now 100% exempt from all inspection too!

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Go Utah

Post by **Pit Slave** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:27 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Pit Slave wrote:
Pit Slave wrote:No inspection in New Jersey for diesel engine vehicles. All self inspection.

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit
And, I am also now 100% exempt from all inspection too!

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit
Go Utah

Nope! Brand new regulations in the entire state of New Jersey! There are none!

Yeah, I smoked 'em, sometimes you just gotta #sendit

Post by **DamageWagon** » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:32 pm

That is awesome. Back to normal. Now can they stop trying to ban handguns?

YouTube · Post by **OffroadTreks** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:00 pm

DamageWagon wrote:That is awesome. Back to normal. Now can they stop trying to ban handguns?

You moved from one liberal state to another.

Reloaderguy · Post by **Reloaderguy** » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:12 pm

MikeKey wrote:I had the console in our 1500, and as much as I loved it. I love not having more now.

I thought I wanted a center console until I borrowed my friend's 1500...I much prefer the fold up bench. The one thing I really miss in the Power Wagon is the Limited or Longhorn leather option. I'm just waiting for the fake leather to split so I can do a custom 100% leather interior. The interior isn't bad now but it could be A LOT better.

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