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Skid Plates?

Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:08 pm

Has anyone ever made some ¼-inch steel skid plates to beef up some of Ram's skids? It's not that they're bad, but they're not great either. OK at best. And have been thinking about beefing them up in a few areas.

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Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:24 pm

I've considered it. Primarily to replace the tubing sections. One good hit on a rock always trashes those. They are still there, but they punch in. Mine look like sine waves haha. The gas tank skid is good I would say. You could add reinforcement but just doing some rectangular tube structure and leaving the sheet metal might be all that is required. 1/4" plate is way overkill. You will collapse the supports that hold the tank skid long before 3/16 plate gives. The biggest worry with the existing skid is that the edges like to curl up and into the tank and can cut a hole in the tank.


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Post by olyelr » Tue Feb 21, 2017 1:48 pm

Here are some manufactured aluminum units I came across the other day.

http://www.asfir.com/our-products/skid_ ... odel_id=30
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Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:02 pm

Never heard of those guys, that's pretty sweet


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Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:35 pm

Interesting, although these seem to be for the diesel models specifically?
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Re: Skid Plates?

Post by RamGentry » Tue Feb 21, 2017 2:49 pm

ASS FUR...anyone else reading it that way?



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Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:00 pm

I read "ass fear", both are pretty bad.


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Post by yellowranger1 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:21 pm

Looks like they're out of Israel, shipping is probably pretty cost prohibitive. Cool that there's an option out there though.


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Post by PWRider » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:31 pm

I'd say lose those running boards first.

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Post by olyelr » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:47 pm

PWRider wrote:I'd say lose those running boards first.

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If thats in regards to the OP pic, that isnt even a power wagon. It has independant front suspension. He's already got running boards that can handle rocks :lol:
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Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:48 pm

I just noticed that. LOL Just googled Ram Skid Plates and picked an image off google search.
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Post by Reloaderguy » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:03 pm

Do you high center your truck very often? Those tiny tires you have probably don't help.

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Post by OffroadTreks » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:23 pm

Now that's some shit talking right there. :p
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Post by TwinStick » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:47 pm

I checked into stronger skids shortly after I bought mine. I bent the steering damper skidplate the 2nd day I had it, trying to jack up the P-side front tire. There was nothing avail then & nothing avail now, that I know of anyways. So, ours are like 1/8" thick steel, right ? If so, would 1/4" thick aluminum be any stronger/better ? I am guessing that the skidplates are not heat treated because mine bent so easily & did not spring back into shape ?

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Post by DamageWagon » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:32 pm

The heat treatment process would add a ton of cost to those skid plates. Not because of the heat treatment itself, but because they would have to change to an alloy steel. High carbon works too but would be too brittle in they application. So they give the skids strength by cold working them, forming in the ribs and contours. That makes them super strong in certain ways. But yeah... That front skid is 1/8" and has two tiny screws holding it in, so it is what it is haha. Aluminum can be stronger but it can also be weaker too. Land on a rock with factory skids, you get a small sing in a localized area. Land on a rock with a flat aluminum plate, you'll crease or sent a huge area. It just doesn't have structure. If it's formed 1/4" aluminum, like the 5052 alloy from those ass-fear guys, it would be stronger but also super soft. It will take a beating before breaking probably but will deflect a lot with each hit. You could bend those skids by sticking each end on a cinder block and jumping in the middle.


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Post by OffroadTreks » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:48 pm

What I don't like about aluminum is that it gouges easily.
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Post by Reloaderguy » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:16 pm

What weighs more, a ton of aluminum or a ton of steel?

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Post by DamageWagon » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:23 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:What weighs more, a ton of aluminum or a ton of steel?
A 4 ton truck.


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Post by ramv » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:07 pm

The brackets on the gas tank skid are the weak parts. They are the same as my second gen which had a plastic skid plate and the brackets still failed first.
On the T'case, I made a new crossmember (on the second gen) out of 2x4" 3/16" tubing, with 1/4" steel caps on the frame. I bolted 3/16" aluminum plate with the factory t/case skid on top of it. I have bent the crap out of the plate itself but not the crossmemeber so it's doing its job.

I took the gas tank off and got one from a Grand Cherokee 5.9 and put it in the bed. Solved the skid plate issue.
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Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:25 am

DamageWagon wrote:
Reloaderguy wrote:What weighs more, a ton of aluminum or a ton of steel?
A 4 ton truck.
They're heavier than that. I've been over the cat scales. :chug:
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MikeKey wrote:
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Reloaderguy wrote:What weighs more, a ton of aluminum or a ton of steel?
A 4 ton truck.
They're heavier than that. I've been over the cat scales. :chug:
As soon as I hop in my empty truck (no gear), It's over 4 tons. :secret:
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Post by DamageWagon » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:42 pm

Holy cow I thought they were about 7000 dry. That's nuts.


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Post by Reloaderguy » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:12 pm

Those are huge nuts.

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Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:21 pm

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Full tank of gas, two adults, two kids, some gear and Toyo 35's. 8360lbs. Pretty damn close to GVWR. :popcorn:


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Post by DamageWagon » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:41 pm

Whoa. That's fat. Mike, noob question,how do you use Cat scales?


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