4th Gen Power Wagon Snorkel

[04Ram2500Hemi]

For those not following the AEV Ram thread, I just posted this on that thread but thought I would share here too. I was able to swing by AEV last night and see the SEMA truck in person, and yeah, it’s pretty damn cool. It sounds like the first of the year products will be out and ready to be ordered. The Snorkel was interested, and now I understand why they are calling it a “Raised Air Intake System.” I’m not sure I’ll say it exactly right, but the way I understand it’s not a 100% water tight Snorkel like we thought it was. When towing and under load the computer sends a signal to the intake system, and a flapper opens up behind the grill to allow more air to flow into the engine. In short, it’s not going to be 100% water tight when you’re crossing water, so don’t plan on it being used as a true snorkel.

[jeep_boy02]

Booooooo!

[Bill2014]

If I'm ever going to take the leap to a snorkel, I'd want a sealed system. That's a lot of money and effort to get only half of the benefit.

[2wagons1driveway]

Ya or a hydro locked engine


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[Skyd Ram]

The flapper that you are talking about is part of the factory intake system on the '13+ Diesel trucks. It is not on the 10-12 Diesels nor the Hemi's as far as I know. I can't remember the speed at which it opens but I doubt that it will be opening at water crossing speeds.

[jeep_boy02]

Still tho it isn't an actual snorkel. I wouldn't chance thinking "I'll be ok, I have this snorkel kinda thing" only to have a seal fail or "flap" open that otherwise wouldn't have been there.

[04Ram2500Hemi]

My question is this: if it's not a snorkel what is the advantages of this system over the stock setup? Sure it looks cool, but if I'm spending big dollars on this I'd like to know what it's going to do for me.

[azracer]

My question is this: if it's not a snorkel what is the advantages of this system over the stock setup? Sure it looks cool, but if I'm spending big dollars on this I'd like to know what it's going to do for me.

Well for one thing it gets the air inlet up and out of the dust and secondly you get slightly cooler air. Snow can be just as bad as silt at times too. Thats about it.

Sometimes when crossing a silt bed it is the only way not to plug up your air filter.

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[2wagons1driveway]

That is disgusting lol I can only imagine how the Serp belt is loving that silt!!! Not to mention the alternator lol :/


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[adeluca73]

I''d still consider it...I think.

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Some good news from AEV. This is from Dave over at the AEV Forum. In short, the AEV Raised Air Intake is a water tight system for the Hemi.
http://forum.aev-conversions.com/showth ... #post86030

Background:
The Cummins does have whats called an "Active Intake Box" (none of the other engines have this). The idea is that the box normally takes air from inside the fender where it is relatively well protected from dirt, dust and debris. The box has a motor and air flap as well as another air intake port in the front of the box located in the grille of the truck.
When a Cummins is subjected to very heavy loads in very high ambient temperatures, the computer will begin to de-rate the power in order to keep the engine running correctly. By opening the front valve, there is a chance it can get colder air and delay derating the power.
From what Ive been told by Ram, most trucks will go their entire lives without opening the valve. For those of us out west pulling large grades with heavy loads in high ambient temps, we will be the ones using it.
There is a lot of logic that determines just when this flap will open, for instance not when its raining, not in 4 Low, etc.

What it means for the Raised Air Intake System:

We call it a Raised Air Intake System for a couple of reasons:
A) We are trying to get the point across that its people who live in dry environments that need "snorkels" more than in wet environments. After all you might use a snorkel once a year to cross water (unless you live in Costa Rica or similar) but you'll use it everyday in the dryer environments.
B) The small flapper door does not seal fully in the Cummins Active Air Box. Now, with a very small amount of work, you certainly CAN seal the box off and make it work for water.

On the 5.7/6.4/3.6/3.0CRD, none of this is an issue and the box is sealed to the intake system.

[jeep_boy02]

Well well well, nice news

[SheepdogOutdoorsman]

All I wanna know now is how much, and when can I expect it at my door!

[04Ram2500Hemi]

All I wanna know now is how much, and when can I expect it at my door!

$500 ish before install. AEV hasn't released the final price, but that's what I've been hearing.

[adeluca73]

All I wanna know now is how much, and when can I expect it at my door!

$500 ish before install. AEV hasn't released the final price, but that's what I've been hearing.

I thought I read it was like $450. Any opinions/insight on what the install might cost?

[04Ram2500Hemi]

All I wanna know now is how much, and when can I expect it at my door!

$500 ish before install. AEV hasn't released the final price, but that's what I've been hearing.

I thought I read it was like $450. Any opinions/insight on what the install might cost?

I think install is going to depend on how long it will take and the rate a shop charges. I've got a shop I trust to do the install, I just don't know if it's a 2 hour job or a 5 hour job.