Kill-switch for electronic nannies

[Reloaderguy]

If you pull the F6 40A fuse you can do donuts to your heart's content. You get an ABS warning light but it goes away as soon as you put the fuse back. Similar to what was posted in the DTX discussion.

[olyelr]

If you pull the F6 40A fuse you can do donuts to your heart's content. You get an ABS warning light but it goes away as soon as you put the fuse back. Similar to what was posted in the DTX discussion.

Out of curiosity, does 4wd happen to function when doing that?

I ask because my friends cummins truck would not go ito 4wd when his abs was not functioning. They do have a little different engagement setup then our pw's, though.

[Reloaderguy]

If you pull the F6 40A fuse you can do donuts to your heart's content. You get an ABS warning light but it goes away as soon as you put the fuse back. Similar to what was posted in the DTX discussion.

Out of curiosity, does 4wd happen to function when doing that?

I ask because my friends cummins truck would not go ito 4wd when his abs was not functioning. They do have a little different engagement setup then our pw's, though.

Yeah. The axle disconnect functions fine.

[Mike-H]

If you pull the F6 40A fuse you can do donuts to your heart's content. You get an ABS warning light but it goes away as soon as you put the fuse back. Similar to what was posted in the DTX discussion.

Does that have any negative side effects like anything unrelated not working while the fuse is out? On DTX someone mentioned his dash and cruise didn't work with the fuse out on the later trucks. I haven't had time to experiment with my truck to see what it would do.

Although I did have the idea of putting a switch on one of the ABS sensor wires. That would give the system a fault and possibly cause it to turn off or go into failsafe mode. This is the way I killed the ABS system on my KTM. Once the system sensed an error on the speed sensor it would give me an ABS light and I had full control of the brakes.

[olyelr]

Well i know for a fact that when abs isnt working on a '13 cummins, neither does the 4wd system.

We ripped the abs wires right out of the wheel bearing when changing his ball joints (it fell off the radius arm). The 4x4 system would no longer engage until he replaced that sensor/wire.

[OffroadTreks]

What nannies are bothering you people?

[olyelr]

What nannies are bothering you people?

Wheeling in the snow, the abs drives me insane. Even in 4 lo.

Otherwise, havnt had much issues yet aside from not being able to fishtail in 2hi. That ticks me right off too.

[Bill2014]

What nannies are bothering you people?

I embrace all my nannies - and with some practice have even figured out how to go where no Snowsled has gone before
Even love the TPMS...
Don't really have the desire to do donuts in the sand or snow... Don't squeal the tires on purpose to get attention - my horn works for that.

Would even welcome some of the new nannies that are coming down the pike - such as lane departure and crash avoidance.

[Reloaderguy]

What nannies are bothering you people?

In 4Hi if you need wheel speed and are on an incline the computer backs off the throttle. It feels like a dead pedal.

[olyelr]

What nannies are bothering you people?

I embrace all my nannies - and with some practice have even figured out how to go where no Snowsled has gone before
Even love the TPMS...
Don't really have the desire to do donuts in the sand or snow... Don't squeal the tires on purpose to get attention - my horn works for that.

Would even welcome some of the new nannies that are coming down the pike - such as lane departure and crash avoidance.

I agree to a point. Not a single one of the nannies bother me with normal daily driving. But off road...

[Mike-H]

What nannies are bothering you people?

I embrace all my nannies - and with some practice have even figured out how to go where no Snowsled has gone before
Even love the TPMS...
Don't really have the desire to do donuts in the sand or snow... Don't squeal the tires on purpose to get attention - my horn works for that.

Would even welcome some of the new nannies that are coming down the pike - such as lane departure and crash avoidance.

Wait until you see that hole or washout on a dirt road a little too late and the ABS decides it doesn't want the wheels to slip, so you hit it at full speed bs being able to slow down. You'll cuss the ABS! This is one area the Raptor is hands down better. Having an off road mode with traction control off along with the ABS programmed for slippage makes the vehicle much better to drive off-road and safer too.

[Low_Sky]

What nannies are bothering you people?

I embrace all my nannies - and with some practice have even figured out how to go where no Snowsled has gone before
Even love the TPMS...
Don't really have the desire to do donuts in the sand or snow... Don't squeal the tires on purpose to get attention - my horn works for that.

Would even welcome some of the new nannies that are coming down the pike - such as lane departure and crash avoidance.

Wait until you see that hole or washout on a dirt road a little too late and the ABS decides it doesn't want the wheels to slip, so you hit it at full speed bs being able to slow down. You'll cuss the ABS! This is one area the Raptor is hands down better. Having an off road mode with traction control off along with the ABS programmed for slippage makes the vehicle much better to drive off-road and safer too.

Yeah, steering sucks and is in no way helpful for avoiding potholes.

[Mike-H]

Try avoiding a wash across the whole road. Not everything can be steered around. Sometimes getting on the brakes hard is the only option.

[Chromolykid]

KINGs can help those holes feel smaller.
Just don't tell your wife that when justifying your purchase...


I'm confident driving the truck as is and using the computer to my advantage, but I do think these trucks should be able to fully disable all assistance at the push of a button in 2HI or 4HI also. I'd love to disconnect the swaybar at any time as well. I've forgotten to disable ECS in 4HI before getting in sand and couldn't slow down to do so but was barely staying on top of it thanks to constant throttle reduction. I believe a simple toggle switch wired to the ABS fuse would eliminate our problems, but may have other side effects. I've asked before with no takers, who's gonna be the brave one to try it first? Haha.

[Rodeoflyer]

I pulled the fuse (#26) last week at the ranch and played around all day without it. The dash lit up like a Christmas tree both ESC and TCS including the most unsettling, a large red BRAKE light at the top of the display. It was dry and rocky so to tell you the truth I didn't notice the difference but usually run around in 4lo anyway which accomplishes(?) the same purpose. Someone would need to run high speed in 4hi without it or in slick conditions to really see the effects.

I think switching the fuse should be simple.

[Will]

I cut all kinds of wires in my truck playing with the lights. haha. I have my back up lights, tail lights and clearance lights on switches. Bypassed all the 4wd bullshit and put a manual disconnect on the swaybar. Only thing mine has now is the ABS and yes, that sucks a major donkey ___ when you have to stop offroad, even going slow on slick stuff. Offroad, you need the tires to lock up an dig down at certain times. You flat out can not stop on a muddy road that is slick.

[olyelr]

I cut all kinds of wires in my truck playing with the lights. haha. I have my back up lights, tail lights and clearance lights on switches. Bypassed all the 4wd bullshit and put a manual disconnect on the swaybar. Only thing mine has now is the ABS and yes, that sucks a major donkey ___ when you have to stop offroad, even going slow on slick stuff. Offroad, you need the tires to lock up an dig down at certain times. You flat out can not stop on a muddy road that is slick.

Well for crying out loud put a switch on the ABS fuse already!

[olyelr]

I think switching the fuse should be simple.

That may be a better solution. Hmmmm.

[Rodeoflyer]

Yep. I could run that wiring in less time than it takes me to pop the hood. Well...almost

[olyelr]

Yep. I could run that wiring in less time than it takes me to pop the hood. Well...almost

Is it easy to figure out what wire it is? Obviously the fuse is easy to find, but is the wire easy to locate and tap into?

[Rodeoflyer]

I'm thinking a fuse tap http://www.dmbruss.com/zRVTech/RVTT_FuseSwitch.htm

It would be simple to remove for 'warranty' work. It may not be as easy with these fuse types. I'm looking for something that may work...

[olyelr]

Wow. Yeah, I just pulled the fuse for the ABS and other electronic stuff. What a transformation! You actually feel in control of the truck... man and machine... like driving a vehicle from back in the 70s.

Now, how the hell to tap into this with a switch? Preferably discretely as possible. For right now I will gladly pop the hood and pull the fuse, but a switch in the cab sure would be a nice addition.

[Retired BLM Rig]

Post a picture of the fuse you pulled and amps.

[dodgethis15]

Please, electronic wizards of this forum, give us the hooligan switch!!

[Low_Sky]

It's the green 40A by itself in the middle of the box.



If it will fit under the lid of the fuse box, it looks like you'd just need to make one of these with a switch wired in.

http://www.aeswave.com/JCASE-Fuse-Exten ... p9267.html