Chrysler Extended warranty

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TwinStick

Re: Chrysler Extended warranty

Post by TwinStick » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:07 pm

Sweet5ltr wrote:$5,000 for a new rear locker assembly :sick:

I'm just concerned with the electronics. This truck could turn into a literal scrap heap in ten years if a wire shorted somewhere on the engine/body harness, these driveline and engine harnesses are not user serviceable. Unless you know a mechanic and have access to a complete wiring diagram, how in the ---- could anyone (other than a dealer with specialized software, training, and schematics) properly diagnose the issue? It would cost thousands to diagnose and fix. My father's 16' Charger is showing 90-100 PSI on the digital oil pressure layout, yet is at 40-45 on the analog gauge. It may be something as simple as requiring a reflash, or it could be a signal wire not producing the proper resistance in the harness. Stupid things like this are why I opted for a warranty, I know what you're saying though, the last dealership I went to with my previous Z06 Corvette would not diagnose the lean condition on one of the cylinders because I had an aftermarket air filter setup on the car (this was with an extended warranty). However, they did state if I put on the factory air-intake assembly that they would diagnose the issue. Later on at another dealership, the same engine dropped a valve pulling out of a parking space. Valve didn't damage the piston top but it did require a teardown of the top end, and valve spring replacements. They didn't even question me, just had the oil changed a few weeks prior and had service records to back it up. They priced out a replacement long block/labor/install and it was over $10,000 and were ready to cover it. Yes, going to the 'right' dealership can make all the difference as well and paying the dealership $20 in labor for changing the oil (bring in your own oil/filter) is great for record keeping.
Yes, it came to around $5000 + or -. Labor was a huge part of it. They thought they had me & that I was on the hook for the bill. I kept saying: "My Power Train is not working properly, I have a Lifetime Power Train warranty." Then I had to show them, in the LPT warranty paperwork - "everything inside the axles is covered". I must have said that a hundred times, even to the owner.
My truck took them almost a month to fix. First week was electronic trouble shooting. 2nd week the guy was in school somewhere, learning how to fix my truck. It was up on their lift for over 3 weeks. End of 2nd week the Rear tires we off, rear axle shafts were out, rear diff cover was off, entire gearset was out. They did cover the axle tubes & rear diff with clean rags to keep debris out. He comes back from school, then he realizes that his dealer does not have the tool they need to do the job. That took another week, to get a tool on loan from another dealer somewhere. Owner said he does not sell enough PW's to make it worth his while to invest in the tool needed. When i picked it up, the Ser. Mgr. said the owner was looking for any reason what so ever to void your LPT warranty. It was not fun for me either. I was still working then & needed my truck. I scheduled it while i was on a 2 week vacation but ended up needing a car from them. They gave me a total POS. Low fuel light came on as soon as i pulled away with it. The whole experience was a nightmare.

Since they fixed it, I have had no problems, I will be keeping an eye on the rear diff temps though, they seem a little high to me.

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Re: Chrysler Extended warranty

Post by nts007 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:55 pm

Sweet5ltr wrote:
nts007 wrote:Some of our trucks are at or well over ten years old now. They are not piles of junk. The only thing I agree with though is the electronics issue. Not wiring but the multitude of control modules. While they do go bad from time to time 90% of the time they don't. When they do it's more likely an outside source cause like moisture than just random failure. But if you can get lifetime bumper to bumper then hell yes do it!
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A lot disagree because they don't own a 2014+, the 3rd Gen Rams were pretty basic in comparison with a lot of proven and dependable systems.. I have 100% faith in the power train, that doesn't even cross my mind as it's proven, but the electrical components on newer vehicles are a nightmare. Every component on this truck is tied into the main body/engine harness and every single aspect is controlled by a control module. The length of cable, gauge of wire, all must be in sync in order to provide the correct resistance to whichever sensor monitors it to ensure an accurate readout. If the module doesn't receive the correct signal, it won't operate and throw a code. Wiring gets brittle with age, and there is an 'end of life' cycle for nearly anything electronic at -x- hours of use. My C5 Z06 had an issue with the column lock mechanism, it was towed to the dealership three times. If the sensor detected less than 'x' amount of voltage/resistance to that module, it would send a code to the ecu (which required a dealer reflash), completely lock the steering column and place the car into limp mode. Anything over 2MPH and it would cut off the fuel pump. They had no fix after replacing the module, they said to just keep bringing it in for a reflash. I ended up buying a $100 aftermarket module and disabled it within an hour. Then again, what if there was no aftermarket fix, would I have kept the vehicle any longer; most likely not because I wouldn't have paid the dealer fee's for the reflash anymore, let alone to actually diagnose the issue. The dealer will replace every single component on this truck until it's right in ten-fifteen years, if something like that occurs, that alone is money well spent. My father has 2-C4 Corvettes, never replaced a single component other than a trans rebuild for one at 200,000 miles due to sitting a few years. So it's hard for us to say that these newer 6.4's PW's will be as reliable as the third gens, around 2023-2024 we'll have an answer :popcorn:
In the end though there will pretty much always be a market for companies to repair or upgrade or defeat or upgrade all these new tangled systems. The aftermarket will never die. When problems arise we overcome them with enginuity. Even if it's with duct tape and some tie wire. In the end they are still mechanical beasts that someone named bob from Kentucky built. I'd like to think I am smarter than bob. Then I realize he's got job security and a pension. For the most part. Bob is smarter than me... :doh:

It's going to take the ten years for problems to develop. And as we know the dealerships replacements are not always the best. But if they will fix it Indefiantly then awesome!



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TwinStick

Re: Chrysler Extended warranty

Post by TwinStick » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:55 am

:lol: Bob from Kentucky did NOT build mine. :lol: Julio from Saltilo Mexico built mine. :lol:

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