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by SheepdogOutdoorsman » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:34 am
RustyPW wrote:There is a program in the computer called Torque Management. It controls the torque at a given parameter. Seems like it's controlling more in the 6.4. With some tuners, you can change the settings.
^^^^^^^^^ Yup ^^^^^^^^^
Sean at Hemifever, I believe, can get rid of this ... I'm so tired of the torque management on my truck ... I'll manage it myself, thank you very much ... I have a Diablosport InTune with his custom tunes ... I've thought about paying him to take that out of the programming ...
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Digger
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:59 am
If it weren't for the color (black) I don't think I would even consider going from the 13 to the 16
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RustyPW
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by RustyPW » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:05 am
SheepdogOutdoorsman wrote:RustyPW wrote:There is a program in the computer called Torque Management. It controls the torque at a given parameter. Seems like it's controlling more in the 6.4. With some tuners, you can change the settings.
^^^^^^^^^ Yup ^^^^^^^^^
Sean at Hemifever, I believe, can get rid of this ... I'm so tired of the torque management on my truck ... I'll manage it myself, thank you very much ... I have a Diablosport InTune with his custom tunes ... I've thought about paying him to take that out of the programming ...
You don't want to take it out. Just readjust some of the parameters to your liking.
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by Snowsled » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:08 am
Digger wrote:If it weren't for the color (black) I don't think I would even consider going from the 13 to the 16
If the color is that big of a deal then just do it. You will probably get better mpg with the '16 if that is any consolation. Otherwise I suspect that in most daily driving you aren't going to notice a lot of differences between the two. I suspect the '16 rides a little better too.
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by Colibri » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:58 pm
Paint the truck. Problem solved.

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by OffroadTreks » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:46 pm
How does one buy something they don't like?
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by Mule » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:13 pm
MikeKey wrote:How does one buy something they don't like?
Ever heard of 'health insurance'?

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by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:44 pm
Colibri wrote:Paint the truck. Problem solved.

I've actually been thinking about that myself. My truck is paid for and has less than 35,000 miles on it, and I'm really starting to regret buying a white truck. I'd really like to have a truck in the Praire Pearl Color, but I'm not sure I want to spend the money to have a perfectly good truck painted. I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I'm going to guess a new paint job is $7,000. While that would be a lot less than buying/financing a new truck, I'm not sure I want to make that kind of investment.
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by OffroadTreks » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:21 pm
04Ram2500Hemi wrote:Colibri wrote:Paint the truck. Problem solved.

I've actually been thinking about that myself. My truck is paid for and has less than 35,000 miles on it, and I'm really starting to regret buying a white truck. I'd really like to have a truck in the Praire Pearl Color, but I'm not sure I want to spend the money to have a perfectly good truck painted. I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I'm going to guess a new paint job is $7,000. While that would be a lot less than buying/financing a new truck, I'm not sure I want to make that kind of investment.
What makes you regret white?
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by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:27 pm
MikeKey wrote:04Ram2500Hemi wrote:Colibri wrote:Paint the truck. Problem solved.

I've actually been thinking about that myself. My truck is paid for and has less than 35,000 miles on it, and I'm really starting to regret buying a white truck. I'd really like to have a truck in the Praire Pearl Color, but I'm not sure I want to spend the money to have a perfectly good truck painted. I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I'm going to guess a new paint job is $7,000. While that would be a lot less than buying/financing a new truck, I'm not sure I want to make that kind of investment.
What makes you regret white?
Every spring I have the truck professionally detailed because after winter each year I get little yellow spots behind the paint. I live in an area where they use de-icer, and even though I wash my truck regularly, it's always a PIA to keep clean. My wife has a white Honda Pilot, and we get the same little yellow spots behind her paint each winter too. After having this truck for four years, I'll never own another white vehicle. At least the white hides little scratches from hunting season pretty decent, but I'm still wishing I would have bought a different color.
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by Colibri » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:47 pm
I've seen some pretty decent wraps and even plastidip for changing the color of a truck in a non permanent way.
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by BMWags » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:57 pm
waldo wrote:New suspension. It gives more flex and a better ride, but does nothing for wheel hop issue.
CAD.
6.4 is nice, but takes expensive oil.
11.5" rear end, but only 4:10 gears.
What is wrong with CAD?
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by Will » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:11 pm
I love my mineral grey, I very seldom wash it, only difference that makes is the bottom strip stands out and the truck shines. The fender flares are faded but match the paint and it hides scratches and hides really good in the dark....many think a black vehicle hides better in the dark but it stands out the most through night vision...
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by MOPARManiac » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:26 pm
I like Silver and it hides scratches well. The bad thing about Silver is matching it if you have to repaint something. I have been told that Silver is the hardest color to match. I have always liked White and that was first choice if I would have purchased new. I can understand about the rust if you are in a state that uses Mag Chloride regularly, that stuff is highly corrosive. It does it for any color you just notice it more with white. My favorite Powerwagon color is Sagebrush. Dodge/Ram only did that color for a year or two, but it was a great color.
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:33 pm
MikeKey wrote:How does one buy something they don't like?
It was the only 2013 power wagon I could find I wanted one just in case the 14s changes didn't work out well

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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:36 pm
Colibri wrote:Paint the truck. Problem solved.

I wonder what it would actually cost for a good paint job ? Inside door jambs under hood ect .... Maybe it's just me but I have n very seen anything come out of the body shop without annoying little issues with trim ect that never seems to be made right ?i don't know
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Digger
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:38 pm
Well I have to decide tonight lol

I've got great equity in my trade only 17000 miles so it isn't gonna cost me anything essentials to upgrade but that's the question will it be an upgrade or not ?
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by Ducky's Dad » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:40 pm
Like women buying shoes. I don't like the color of my BMW, but the price was right and I've had it for 17 years. When it wears out, I'll get a different color. And if you are actually concerned about hiding a black truck from night vision, I don't even want to know why.
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Digger
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:50 pm
Who said anything about night vision
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by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:05 pm
Digger wrote:Colibri wrote:Paint the truck. Problem solved.

I wonder what it would actually cost for a good paint job ? Inside door jambs under hood ect .... Maybe it's just me but I have n very seen anything come out of the body shop without annoying little issues with trim ect that never seems to be made right ?i don't know
After work I actually stopped by one of the most reputable auto body shops in town and asked. He said off the top of his head without doing a formal quote that a new paint job on my truck would run $5,000 - $6,000 and take about 30 days to do it right. I think the price is fair, but I hadn't given a lot of thought to the time table. I don't see myself doing this, but the shop was around the corner and I know the owner really well so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
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by Reloaderguy » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:13 pm
That estimate doesn't include the $5K to $10K loss in equity if you ever decide to sell the truck.
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by FirerescuePW » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:16 pm
Digger wrote:Who said anything about night vision
Will. Makes you wonder....
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:44 pm
Well is there anyone on here who switched from a gen 3 to a 16 and regretted it ??
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by Digger » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:46 pm
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by MOPARManiac » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:02 pm
Digger wrote:Well is there anyone on here who switched from a gen 3 to a 16 and regretted it ??
I thought yours was a Gen 4, 2013 model....
If I had a Gen 3 I personally wouldn't trade it in on a new one with the 4:10 gears. The only reason why I waited and got a Gen 4 was for the crew cab and extra room for the family, otherwise I would have found a clean Gen 3 PW.
Have you thought about waiting and getting a 2017? They have the new wheels with different grill and the going back to the retro Macho Power Wagon look is awesome.
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