35's fit on stock 2014 and later Power Wagon?

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:56 pm

adeluca73 wrote:

Here's a great review, though the test rig was a Samuri, this guy took these tires to many different states to put the tires through all types of extreme terrain: rain, smooth slippery rocks, sharp cutting rocks, deep deep snow, flat desert running, washboards, & on road driving slow & highway speeds, over 3000 dedicated off road miles...he said it was the best on and off road tire he's ever reviewed, also the most expensive too, that's an incredible claim, I'm leaning toward these right now in 35x10.5...thoughts????

I think they would be a pretty dang good tire. Although fairly tame for a Super Swamper, they are still quite aggressive for a DD tire. Just dont expect a long tread life and I think you will be happy with them.

14PowerWaggy · Post by **14PowerWaggy** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 3:56 pm

olyelr wrote:
gone2 wrote:I run 35x12.5 x 18 Nitto M/T's on stock suspension and they have never rubbed. I actually picked the Nitto's because they run wider than most 12.5" tires.

That's because you have aftermarket wheels with less backspacing. Put that tire on a stock wheel and she will rub.

Not true... I ran 35x12.5x17 Nitto M/T's on stock wheels for a while and never rubbed anything on the truck... Even with the 37's and aftermarket wheels I have now I have never rubbed the radius arms... Just the fender liners and drivers side sway bar...

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:27 pm

14PowerWaggy wrote:
olyelr wrote:
gone2 wrote:I run 35x12.5 x 18 Nitto M/T's on stock suspension and they have never rubbed. I actually picked the Nitto's because they run wider than most 12.5" tires.

That's because you have aftermarket wheels with less backspacing. Put that tire on a stock wheel and she will rub.

Not true... I ran 35x12.5x17 Nitto M/T's on stock wheels for a while and never rubbed anything on the truck... Even with the 37's and aftermarket wheels I have now I have never rubbed the radius arms... Just the fender liners and drivers side sway bar...

Well hells bells, maybe the new trucks with radius arms have a little more room for turning... or less turning radius? Good to know.

Will · Post by **Will** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:54 pm

adeluca73 wrote:
MoparToYou wrote: The SuperSwamper SSR's are 35x10.5 R17, which is a true Pizza Cutter and fits a lot of the 2500/3500 series trucks with no rubbing on turns.

I ran those tires on a Jeep TJ, but in a 35x13.50 size. Excellent highway ride, but a bit loud. Excellent offroad traction everywhere I tried them. They have a super soft rubber compound though, so they really had issues with chunking in the rocks, and they were worn out in 10,000 miles.
Here's a great review, though the test rig was a Samuri, this guy took these tires to many different states to put the tires through all types of extreme terrain: rain, smooth slippery rocks, sharp cutting rocks, deep deep snow, flat desert running, washboards, & on road driving slow & highway speeds, over 3000 dedicated off road miles...he said it was the best on and off road tire he's ever reviewed, also the most expensive too, that's an incredible claim, I'm leaning toward these right now in 35x10.5...thoughts????

http://www.off-road.com/trucks-4x4/revi ... 23008.html

I've looked at those a number of times. It's an 80psi tire though. Definitely won't have a tpms issue. Haha.

adeluca73 · Post by **adeluca73** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:18 pm

Will wrote:
adeluca73 wrote:
MoparToYou wrote: The SuperSwamper SSR's are 35x10.5 R17, which is a true Pizza Cutter and fits a lot of the 2500/3500 series trucks with no rubbing on turns.

I ran those tires on a Jeep TJ, but in a 35x13.50 size. Excellent highway ride, but a bit loud. Excellent offroad traction everywhere I tried them. They have a super soft rubber compound though, so they really had issues with chunking in the rocks, and they were worn out in 10,000 miles.
Here's a great review, though the test rig was a Samuri, this guy took these tires to many different states to put the tires through all types of extreme terrain: rain, smooth slippery rocks, sharp cutting rocks, deep deep snow, flat desert running, washboards, & on road driving slow & highway speeds, over 3000 dedicated off road miles...he said it was the best on and off road tire he's ever reviewed, also the most expensive too, that's an incredible claim, I'm leaning toward these right now in 35x10.5...thoughts????

http://www.off-road.com/trucks-4x4/revi ... 23008.html
I've looked at those a number of times. It's an 80psi tire though. Definitely won't have a tpms issue. Haha.

So why haven't you pulled the trigger? These are vastly differnt than those geolanders you're running now...

Will · Post by **Will** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:09 am

adeluca73 wrote:
So why haven't you pulled the trigger? These are vastly differnt than those geolanders you're running now...

The Geolandars are vastly different than what I would normally run and the sons of bitches will not wear out! If I wasn't in the middle of building a house right now, I would sell the Geolandars just to try something different.

I have found absolutely nothing wrong with them, just time for something new. Also, I'm leaning more towards the Hankook Dynapro MT in the 37. It will come down to the time when I need tires and how frisky I will be then.

Will · Post by **Will** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:35 pm

I've used this particular site a few times getting the feel for a tire. It might help someone when looking for consumer reviews. I agree with some of the tire reviews and disagree with some but it's still nice to be able to pick from many tires to compare...

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Ti ... SR_TSL.htm

adeluca73 · Post by **adeluca73** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:31 pm

Will wrote:I've used this particular site a few times getting the feel for a tire. It might help someone when looking for consumer reviews. I agree with some of the tire reviews and disagree with some but it's still nice to be able to pick from many tires to compare...

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Ti ... SR_TSL.htm

Yep--use that site a lot to look at tires, for several different trucks I've had. That's how I ended up with the Copper ST Maxx on my F250 King Ranch over the BFG KM's that were on there, and saved about $500 too....

14PowerWaggy · Post by **14PowerWaggy** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:17 pm

My experience with Super Swamper tires, I've had a few sets on previous vehicles, is that they are phenomenal tires for off-road use but they don't last long at all on a daily driver... 12,000-20,000 miles out of a set is about normal if using on a daily basis and on the road... For a non-daily or off-road only use vehicle they are great...

RustyPW · Post by **RustyPW** » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:13 pm

Had Super Swappers on a cheby I had years ago. Great off-road. Just ok on the road until it rained.

Winter time. They needed about 2" of snow to work on the road. Mileage was only about 20,000 at the most. If I was going for more off-road use. I would really start to think about them again.

adeluca73 · Post by **adeluca73** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:15 am

14PowerWaggy wrote:My experience with Super Swamper tires, I've had a few sets on previous vehicles, is that they are phenomenal tires for off-road use but they don't last long at all on a daily driver... 12,000-20,000 miles out of a set is about normal if using on a daily basis and on the road... For a non-daily or off-road only use vehicle they are great...

Which ones did you have exactly ??

adeluca73 · Post by **adeluca73** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:16 am

RustyPW wrote:Had Super Swappers on a cheby I had years ago. Great off-road. Just ok on the road until it rained. Winter time. They needed about 2" of snow to work on the road. Mileage was only about 20,000 at the most. If I was going for more off-road use. I would really start to think about them again.

Rusty, which tire model Of those tires did you have ?

14PowerWaggy · Post by **14PowerWaggy** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:02 pm

adeluca73 wrote:
14PowerWaggy wrote:My experience with Super Swamper tires, I've had a few sets on previous vehicles, is that they are phenomenal tires for off-road use but they don't last long at all on a daily driver... 12,000-20,000 miles out of a set is about normal if using on a daily basis and on the road... For a non-daily or off-road only use vehicle they are great...
Which ones did you have exactly ??

I've had the TSL Radial, TSL Bogger and Trxus MT... Radial and Bogger on a lifted 2 door Tahoe... Trxus MT on Ram 1500...

Reloaderguy · Post by **Reloaderguy** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:05 pm

I had Trxus STS Radials on a Jeep and they were cooked in 10k miles. I had Trxus MT's on the same jeep and they were good for about 25k miles. I doubt I'll ever put another set of Swampers on a vehicle that is intended for the street.

RustyPW · Post by **RustyPW** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:07 pm

adeluca73 wrote:
RustyPW wrote:Had Super Swappers on a cheby I had years ago. Great off-road. Just ok on the road until it rained. Winter time. They needed about 2" of snow to work on the road. Mileage was only about 20,000 at the most. If I was going for more off-road use. I would really start to think about them again.

Rusty, which tire model Of those tires did you have ?

I had the TSL Radial, in 36x14.5R-16.5LT.

usmc369 · Post by **usmc369** » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:47 pm

Just installed 315 70 17 bfg ko2's, duratracs were getting really loud at 21000, their is no rubbing, still have a lot of clearance left. These tires are very quiet. they measure 33.3 with 65 psi in them mounted.

Limamikemike · Post by **Limamikemike** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 6:54 pm

Does anyone know if a 35" spare will fit in the stock location on a 14 and up?

Chromolykid · Post by **Chromolykid** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:04 pm

I've researched this quite a few times before but wanted to ask you guys before I pull the trigger, will my 2016 fit a 35x12.5x15 tire on a 17x8.5 wheel with 4.79 backspace and +1 offset? I want to be sure the truck will be able to articulate and turn without rubbing at any point. These are the wheels in question, should be dimensionally similar to Methods: http://walkerevansracing.com/products/s ... heels.html

olyelr · Post by **olyelr** » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:22 pm

Chromolykid wrote:.... will my 2016 fit a 35x12.5x15 tire on a 17x8.5 wheel with 4.79 backspace and +1 offset...

Nope, I would definitely recommend not trying that

Chromolykid · Post by **Chromolykid** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:13 am

olyelr wrote:
Chromolykid wrote:.... will my 2016 fit a 35x12.5x15 tire on a 17x8.5 wheel with 4.79 backspace and +1 offset...

Nope, I would definitely recommend not trying that

Ha! Glad someone is paying attention, I'm obviously not.

MSCH2112 · Post by **MSCH2112** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:10 am

Limamikemike wrote:Does anyone know if a 35" spare will fit in the stock location on a 14 and up?

From what I hear they will barely fit between the frame. However a 12.5 width will bounce on the differential when off road.

Mike

NickTF · Post by **NickTF** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:57 pm

I had a long email exchange with Don Thuren who was extremely helpful even after I disclosed to him from the get go that I was not in the market for suspension parts and understood if he had no time for replying to my questions. In short, 37" tires will fit if you use a heat gun to flatten some of the fender liner, trim a bit of the fender liner, an trim some of the pinch weld near the front of the rocker panel and either: 1) use approximately 1.5" wheel spacers to retain the OEM wheels (was warned extensively to get quality spacers which is a no brainer on a 7200lb truck); or 2) use a wheel with appropriate offset (+18mm offset, the OEM wheel is +57mm offset). I am a big fan of keeping the OEM wheels so when my factory duratracs wear out 37" Toyo RTs are the plan with zero suspension modifications.

14PowerWaggy · Post by **14PowerWaggy** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:06 pm

NickTF wrote:I had a long email exchange with Don Thuren who was extremely helpful even after I disclosed to him from the get go that I was not in the market for suspension parts and understood if he had no time for replying to my questions. In short, 37" tires will fit if you use a heat gun to flatten some of the fender liner, trim a bit of the fender liner, an trim some of the pinch weld near the front of the rocker panel and either: 1) use approximately 1.5" wheel spacers to retain the OEM wheels (was warned extensively to get quality spacers which is a no brainer on a 7200lb truck); or 2) use a wheel with appropriate offset (+18mm offset, the OEM wheel is +57mm offset). I am a big fan of keeping the OEM wheels so when my factory duratracs wear out 37" Toyo RTs are the plan with zero suspension modifications.

I spoke with Don quite extensively and this is what he recommended to me as well... I cut about 3" off the bottom of the liner and pulled it back as far as it would go and cut the pinch seam as far back as we could without cutting of the first bolt... I am running 37x12.5 Nitto Trail Grappler MT's on 9" wide Trail Ready Wheels with 5.8" of back spacing... I still get into the fender liner when the wheel is turned and stuffed in the fender... I also rub the heck out of my driver side sway bar at full lock... I haven't found that this rubbing is actually hurting anything but it does make quite a racket when it does...

14PowerWaggy · Post by **14PowerWaggy** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:09 pm

Limamikemike wrote:Does anyone know if a 35" spare will fit in the stock location on a 14 and up?

I tried with a few different 35" tires and could not make it fit in the factory location... The only way I could get it to fit was completely deflate the tire and force it into the areas that it didn't want to fit in... To me that wasn't ideal so I just keep a full-size spare strapped down in the front of my bed...

Reloaderguy · Post by **Reloaderguy** » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:16 pm

Don told me the same thing. My 37" RTS will be here next week. Anyone want a set of OEM wheels and tires with only 400 miles on them?

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