Mandated Buy Back ordered for Fiat/Chrysler

[WV Mtneer]

I just bought my 2011 PW this January. Is there any way I can tell if the recall work has already been done to my truck without going to the dealer? I want to get it fixed, and I seriously doubt if a buyback offer from dodge would be enough for me to consider letting it go. I love my truck.

[2011TXPowerWagon]

Go to the ramtrucks website an look on the bottom under recall. It will ask for your vin

[Will]

Here's what mine reports. I didn't know there was an issue with the track bar bolt also, no one ever spoke to me about that one. Must've repaired it on a routine service trip.

L16 11V-350 July 06, 2011 THE FRONT TRACK BAR BOLT MAY CAUSE A RATTLE OR BANGING NOISE UNDER CERTAIN DRIVING CONDITIONS. THIS COULD CAUSE A LOSS OF DIRECTIONAL CONTROL AND/OR A CRASH WITHOUT WARNING. THE FRONT TRACK BAR MOUNTING BOLT MUST BE TIGHTENED TO THE PROPER TORQUE SPECIFICATION ON ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES. REPAIRED

N49 13V-529 November 06, 2013 THE LEFT TIE ROD BALL STUD MAY FRACTURE UNDER CERTAIN DRIVING CONDITIONS. THIS COULD CAUSE A LOSS OF DIRECTIONAL CONTROL AND/OR A CRASH WITHOUT WARNING. THE LEFT AND RIGHT TIE RODS MUST BE REPLACED REPAIRED

[PWDan]

Thanks Will, I had no idea what was causing the steering failure until I read your post. Now I have a question that I'm hoping somebody can answer. I haven't seen it myself yet but I was told by a friend of mine that this whole buy back/recall doesn't apply to vehicles manufactured for the Canadian market. Has anyone else heard this? The reason it concerns me is that my truck came from Canada in 2014 according to the Carfax and the dealer I got it from. Not that I'm interested in the buy back because like Mtneer said, I don't think they'll be paying enough for me to consider it. I do however want it fixed properly before something happens. My other question is, why wouldn't it apply to vehicles sold in Canada? Are they somehow built different or is it just a loophole that allows them to avoid responsibility because it's outside of the U.S. And the N.H.T.S.A.? If it is true, It just doesn't make sense to me because you know it's the same failing components used in the U.S. Sold trucks.

[MOPARManiac]

Thanks Will, I had no idea what was causing the steering failure until I read your post. Now I have a question that I'm hoping somebody can answer. I haven't seen it myself yet but I was told by a friend of mine that this whole buy back/recall doesn't apply to vehicles manufactured for the Canadian market. Has anyone else heard this? The reason it concerns me is that my truck came from Canada in 2014 according to the Carfax and the dealer I got it from. Not that I'm interested in the buy back because like Mtneer said, I don't think they'll be paying enough for me to consider it. I do however want it fixed properly before something happens. My other question is, why wouldn't it apply to vehicles sold in Canada? Are they somehow built different or is it just a loophole that allows them to avoid responsibility because it's outside of the U.S. And the N.H.T.S.A.? If it is true, It just doesn't make sense to me because you know it's the same failing components used in the U.S. Sold trucks.

If your PW was sold new in Canada and then imported into the US it would have had to go through proper import requirements for EPA and Federal Safety Standards. Going through the import process through Customs/Registered Importer would make it applicable under NHTSA's standards I would think. Canadian Safety Standards are very similar to US Federal Safety Standards. Typically the only thing different is the Canadian Vehicles read in KPH and the Odometer is in Kilometers.

[PWDan]

Well I thought the speedometer would be in kilometers but it's not for some reason. Could that be changed by a dealer with their computer? I don't know why it would have to go through the U.S. Inspection if it was originally purchased in the states though. Like I said, the carfax has the inspection documented and it was registered in western P.A. Once it was in the U.S. Is it possible that it was originally purchased in the States, taken to Canada and then had to be inspected when it returned? I just checked the Ram site and it says that both of the recalls were completed. I think I'm gonna run the carfax again to see where the truck was originally sold. Not that it really makes a difference as long as they take care of the issue.

[Will]

Just type in your VIN on this links and see... http://recalls.mopar.com/

[TrueBlue13PW]

I entered both my 2012 ram 2500s in the rams recall page. Neither of my 2012 rams are affected by the recall for the steering or the airbag. I wonder if they got things right at the end of the 2012 production? Note both of these 2012's are CTD 4x4 one is a long bed manual the other is a short bed auto. My power wagon is a 2013 so it's not affected by this either.

[PWDan]

I would think yours must be after the issue was corrected or at least according to Chrysler, since I haven't found anything that indicates engine type would make a difference. Just 2500 through 5500 4X4 trucks. I actually have my friends 2011 4X4 3500 mason dump at my house and I just ran his Vin through the Ram site and it's definitely effected by both of the recalls. It comes up the same as mine. Only difference is that he'll take the buy back option because he's self employed and got hurt in a motorcycle accident so he's gotta get rid of his payment.

[JBM Power Wagon]

The reason the buy back doesn't apply in Canada is because our government is not as tough as the U.S. government is on recall issues...... yet. The same recalls will still apply though.

[04Ram2500Hemi]

Looks like I'm stuck with my truck. I went online and the recall for the airbag doesn't apply to my truck, and I had the tie rod repair already done.

[Stickman]

Mines a September '12 and it came back with zero issues aswell.

[PWDan]

The reason the buy back doesn't apply in Canada is because our government is not as tough as the U.S. government is on recall issues...... yet. The same recalls will still apply though.

Okay well at least it's not a loophole somewhere that allows them to neglect a serious or dangerous problem. Hey do all of our 4th gens have KPH gauges inside the standard MPH gauge? I know I never even noticed it until tonight after my earlier post. And I found out ya just have to play around with the settings to change the odometer to kilometers and the tire pressure to whatever that was. I only noticed that because I must have changed it and my TPMS is always on because of a bad sensor. Just trying to figure out if my truck was originally built for the Canadian market since it came from there and if there's anything different on them. Pretty sure I'm Covered either way. Oh and maybe I heard it wrong but one of the news stations said that the previous recall repairs weren't sufficient enough to make our trucks safe and that we would still have the buy back or repair option even if we've had them repaired under the original recall. Mine shows both issues were taken care of so I'm not sure if I'll have to have it done again. It shows one was done in 2011 and the other in 2013.

[Jack187]

Looks like I'm stuck with my truck. I went online and the recall for the airbag doesn't apply to my truck, and I had the tie rod repair already done.

Maybe not.... the reason they are forcing the buyback is because the alleged "repairs" in the earlier recalls were found to not be effective. Even you guys that got your recalls "repaired" for the front end might very well be included in the buyback.

My understanding from what I have read is that a third attempt at correcting the issues will have to be performed, as the other two were found insufficient by the NTSB.

[MOPARManiac]

So what is different in the front end from the 2006 & 7 Gen 3 Powerwagons that are not affected by this buyback/recall and the 08 to 12 PW's?

This quote from the article:

"Fiat Chrysler said more than 60 percent of the trucks already have been fixed, and the company is allowed to repair and resell the trucks it buys back."

Makes me think that if we have had the recall work done our PW's should be fixed. There certainly needs to be some clarification.

[MOPARManiac]

Here is a Q&A link in reference to the buy back.

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/c ... /30795743/

[Ducky's Dad]

Makes me think that if we have had the recall work done our PW's should be fixed. There certainly needs to be some clarification.

I took my '05 to the dealer for a steering recall around 2007, and they blessed it with no repairs. Now there are two more steering recalls on my truck (same truck) that I need to take it in for.

As an aside, I just installed a Carli steering damper on the truck, fitted to my Y-linkage with a Carli clamp that added $100 to the price of the damper. Carli told me that IF the dealer converts my truck to T-linkage, their damper will fit to the T-linkage by removing the clamp.

[JBM Power Wagon]

The reason the buy back doesn't apply in Canada is because our government is not as tough as the U.S. government is on recall issues...... yet. The same recalls will still apply though.

Okay well at least it's not a loophole somewhere that allows them to neglect a serious or dangerous problem. Hey do all of our 4th gens have KPH gauges inside the standard MPH gauge? I know I never even noticed it until tonight after my earlier post. And I found out ya just have to play around with the settings to change the odometer to kilometers and the tire pressure to whatever that was. I only noticed that because I must have changed it and my TPMS is always on because of a bad sensor. Just trying to figure out if my truck was originally built for the Canadian market since it came from there and if there's anything different on them. Pretty sure I'm Covered either way. Oh and maybe I heard it wrong but one of the news stations said that the previous recall repairs weren't sufficient enough to make our trucks safe and that we would still have the buy back or repair option even if we've had them repaired under the original recall. Mine shows both issues were taken care of so I'm not sure if I'll have to have it done again. It shows one was done in 2011 and the other in 2013.

If you have KPH on the outside of the speedo and MPH on the inside than your truck was built for a a sold in Canada. If it has MPH on the outside and KPH on the inside it is a U.S. truck.

[Cactus Red]

Looks like at this point I'm not part of the group since I've had a tierod end failure repaired, and both recalls for the tierod done. Go figure...

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[06wagon]

Just read that they over estimated the amount of trucks that will get "recalled/buy back"

It's only going to be certain trucks that got assembled with parts from a certain supplier....

[Will]

Only thing you can do is wait and see if you get the notice in the mail. Mine has been repaired but I wouldn't be surprised if I got one. The actual stud on the steering tie rods was/is breaking, once that's replaced with a non defected one, its fine.

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[2wagons1driveway]

Is this a viable upgrade to keep our vehicles?

it works very well in happy with my Thuren drag link. It's still tight after a year winter salt and calcium and no noise. I'm guessing they can't take your vehicle they probably have to offer you to buy back the vehicle no?


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[Bluchalk]

Is this a viable upgrade to keep our vehicles?

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it works very well in happy with my Thuren drag link. It's still tight after a year winter salt and calcium and no noise. I'm guessing they can't take your vehicle they probably have to offer you to buy back the vehicle no?


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Talked with Don and he said they can be difficult to set up. Did you set It up yourself?

[08TwinStickPW]

From what my friend that works at the dealership says its only trucks that did not get the recall work done due to a lack of parts.

I am curious to see where this goes, I have a weird feeling in the front end and need to get under there and check the trackbar for play, seems like a loose side to side motion in a turn that does not come through the steering much (or just the new Trailgrapplers I put on).

At this time if my truck turns out to be on the buyback list I am going to fight it. My truck is paid for and only has 37K, not to mention cover under the Added Care Plus till 2018, I want it fixed, if they can't fix it I will with aftermarket parts built to handle what the truck can dish out.

[2wagons1driveway]

Is this a viable upgrade to keep our vehicles?

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1438549764.896159.jpg

it works very well in happy with my Thuren drag link. It's still tight after a year winter salt and calcium and no noise. I'm guessing they can't take your vehicle they probably have to offer you to buy back the vehicle no?


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Talked with Don and he said they can be difficult to set up. Did you set It up yourself?

it was fairly easy to set up I thought. I like it because to remove the drag link to take any other suspension parts off now I just undo a nut on the top of the heim and slide the drag link off. No more effing around with trying to wack a seized tre out of the main tie rod. In all honesty it wasn't hard to set up..... Just remove an end and adjust untill your steering wheel is straight and make sure both heims are equal. And relatively flat at ride height to the main tie rod and the pitman arm this gives them the most travel without binding.... Pretty sure this drag link cycles 14" without binding though.... And that's a lot of travel.


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