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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by TwinStick » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:58 pm

And now, the BIG question. How much for that truck as it sits ??? The Jeep 4 door w/Hemi, 545RFE lift & tires & options is $65,000- $85,000. Don't get me wrong, it is certainly badass. Realistically most will not be able to afford one. If they would do a small lift & 37's & still get full flex for 3rd gens & fender flairs/fenders/bed sides, they would sell some of those for sure. So, anyone know how much ???

:jawdrop: edit; Just priced one out. $59,095 without including the $42,000 for the Jeep Rubicon 4 door. :jawdrop:

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by cruz » Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:06 am

BlkWgn wrote: ... and I had to go through Pismo to get home.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:12 am

TwinStick wrote:And now, the BIG question. How much for that truck as it sits ??? The Jeep 4 door w/Hemi, 545RFE lift & tires & options is $65,000- $85,000. Don't get me wrong, it is certainly badass. Realistically most will not be able to afford one. If they would do a small lift & 37's & still get full flex for 3rd gens & fender flairs/fenders/bed sides, they would sell some of those for sure. So, anyone know how much ???

:jawdrop: edit; Just priced one out. $59,095 without including the $42,000 for the Jeep Rubicon 4 door. :jawdrop:
Remember though, we already have the truck. AEV will sell just parts, you don't have to buy it all. I'm actually fairly content with my truck now, but I could always do a Carli Suspension and then buy AEV wheels and the bumper. We don't need the whole setup.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by TwinStick » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:54 am

Yeah, but still, uber expensive. Bumper is not just ugly, it is FUGLY, but thats just my oppinion. Fender flares with more clearance would be great. I may even go with trimming fenders. 3" lift for 37's & no rubbing at full flex would be great. I'm just looking at this from a poor mans perspective i guess. I just think you can do almost as good for wayyyyyyy less money is all.

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by MSCH2112 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:19 pm

i hate to say it but if i went the AEV route with 40's, i'ld sell the pw and buy a diesel just to turn those 40's, then i'ld get real lockers....air lockers. i can't imagine a hemi turning those meats effectively.

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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:25 pm

MSCH2112 wrote:i hate to say it but if i went the AEV route with 40's, i'ld sell the pw and buy a diesel just to turn those 40's, then i'ld get real lockers....air lockers. i can't imagine a hemi turning those meats effectively.

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by wingerak92 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:26 pm

They say they used stock springs on their set-up….. why? We are all changing out ours on our suspension set-ups.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by BlkWgn » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:45 pm

wingerak92 wrote:They say they used stock springs on their set-up….. why? We are all changing out ours on our suspension set-ups.
from the story on Expedition Portal
While most aftermarket suspensions have either a gas or diesel motor spring, AEV did the research and found 37!!! factory front spring part numbers for these trucks, so it is impossible to provide the correct ride, handling and frequency tuning with only two aftermarket springs. Avoiding the "two size doesn't fit all" approach, the AEV suspension engineering team retained the factory springs, improving performance and value to the consumer.

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by wingerak92 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:05 pm

BlkWgn wrote:
wingerak92 wrote:They say they used stock springs on their set-up….. why? We are all changing out ours on our suspension set-ups.
from the story on Expedition Portal
While most aftermarket suspensions have either a gas or diesel motor spring, AEV did the research and found 37!!! factory front spring part numbers for these trucks, so it is impossible to provide the correct ride, handling and frequency tuning with only two aftermarket springs. Avoiding the "two size doesn't fit all" approach, the AEV suspension engineering team retained the factory springs, improving performance and value to the consumer.

http://expeditionportal.com/dodge/2528- ... ndard.html
I read that. That is why I am questionin. We are all changing out our springs to help with our suspension set-ups. Why are they not? I understand that a Power Wagon is going to have different springs than the Outdoorsman is going to have different springs than a standard 3/4 ton… And Half tons will be different than 3/4s which will be different than 1 tons…
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by BlkWgn » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:09 pm

I am in no way qualified to make this statement, but I would bet that Carli or Thuren have put more thought into their springs than Dodge did. Personally if I was going with the AEV setup, I would probably get aftermarket springs elsewhere to go with it.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by TwinStick » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:49 pm

Tire size won't really be an issue w/Hemi if you can regear to 5.13's. The 2014's have 11.5" rear & 9.25" front---both of which 4.88's & 5.13's are avail.. Would that be much different than the Jeep Pentestar 3.6 turning 37's, (which is quite common) ???

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Post by myoung84 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:00 am

I'd love to have 5.13s now with my 35s!

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Post by BlkWgn » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:32 am

myoung84 wrote:I'd love to have 5.13s now with my 35s!

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by Cactus Red » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:23 pm

They also mention a 3" lift is in the works, and that will probably use an AEV tuned spring/shock combo. If that comes to be, I'll buy it. The AEV lift on our Jeep is phenomenal; it just works flawlessly both off and on road.
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Post by Juday » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:04 pm

Cactus Red wrote:They also mention a 3" lift is in the works, and that will probably use an AEV tuned spring/shock combo. If that comes to be, I'll buy it. The AEV lift on our Jeep is phenomenal; it just works flawlessly both off and on road.
That's what I was thinking, too. ;)
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by azracer » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:15 pm

Well here are some pictures. The set they have here is just the 1 off fiberglass pre production and they will be going into production in 4 to 5 months. No price estimate or guess even.

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Post by azracer » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:30 pm

A few more then I will explain what they said.

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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by azracer » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:16 pm

The inner fender liners are just mockups and nothing like what the finals will be (done for show only). The ends of the bumper are removable and will allow for different designed ones to be bolted to the ends for different years and light applications. The center section of the bumper will be generic to all years 2010>201? and require no modifications between years other than the outer sections being different. They have no intent to adapt this kit to the PW but plan for a zero suspension lift/mod 37" tire set.

He said the 40" kit required a little over 2" of metal fender removal to attach the flares and clear 40" tires. He did not know the wheel offset but said they did not deviate much from OEM.

To use the 40" tires they lengthened the front suspension radios arms over an inch and did " a total reengineering of the steering for the axle to move forward and accommodate the lift" they put in. I think he said 3" lift. The rear suspension is stock geometry but lifted just enough to level the truck.

He Suggested that we PW folks wait for the no lift 37" flare kit and just move the front OEM bumper forward about an inch or so with spacers or new longer brackets they might design if there ends up being enough interest in them. He also suggested that the 2014 guys might do 40" and just re-gear to 513s since we are gassers and now have that option with the new axle.

I got the third degree for doing my photos like I did. I gave them the website but I figure they will round file it and wait to see what interest and traffic this information generates.
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3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by wingerak92 » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:37 pm

That's good! I remember watching their show on RADX (TV Channel up here) where they outfitted a Jeep Commander for arctic expedition. I quite enjoyed it.
Thanks for taking the risk! haha
I will definitely wait for that kit.. Helps me create a better budget! Haha. If I could get away with just doing larger tires I would.
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Post by FirerescuePW » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:46 pm

Nice work, Ken. Very thorough report.

Do you know what size shocks they were able to fit on the rear?
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Post by azracer » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:57 pm

FirerescuePW wrote:Nice work, Ken. Very thorough report.

Do you know what size shocks they were able to fit on the rear?
Thanks, I have one more day and can do special angles or questions if needed I can try to go and get pictures or answers.

The Shocks are 2.0 Bilstien and are nothing we should count on for final production as they were chosen for the show because of fitment and no final decisions have been made about shocks or valving. I quote when saying that " we barely got this stuff to fit together and need to refine our package from here".
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Post by FirerescuePW » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:02 pm

Thanks. I was curious what would fit with the shock mounts up inside the frame. I guess we'll have to wait for more research/engineering from them and others.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by Juday » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:04 am

Thanks for the pictures! Now it makes me wonder if they're just going to build this kit for the radius arm/rear coil suspension crowd, or if they'll go back and produce items for those of us with control arms and leaf spring rear?
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:26 am

azracer wrote:The inner fender liners are just mockups and nothing like what the finals will be (done for show only). The ends of the bumper are removable and will allow for different designed ones to be bolted to the ends for different years and light applications. The center section of the bumper will be generic to all years 2010>201? and require no modifications between years other than the outer sections being different. They have no intent to adapt this kit to the PW but plan for a zero suspension lift/mod 37" tire set.

He said the 40" kit required a little over 2" of metal fender removal to attach the flares and clear 40" tires. He did not know the wheel offset but said they did not deviate much from OEM.

To use the 40" tires they lengthened the front suspension radios arms over an inch and did " a total reengineering of the steering for the axle to move forward and accommodate the lift" they put in. I think he said 3" lift. The rear suspension is stock geometry but lifted just enough to level the truck.

He Suggested that we PW folks wait for the no lift 37" flare kit and just move the front OEM bumper forward about an inch or so with spacers or new longer brackets they might design if there ends up being enough interest in them. He also suggested that the 2014 guys might do 40" and just re-gear to 513s since we are gassers and now have that option with the new axle.

I got the third degree for doing my photos like I did. I gave them the website but I figure they will round file it and wait to see what interest and traffic this information generates.
I like the Power Wagon suggestion. That may be the way I go if I ever do anything with my truck. I really have no urge for 40" tires with my truck.
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by GunniPWguy » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:45 am

That is way cool that you are able to be at the show and see that stuff first hand. Jealous. Thanks for posting the pics for us. These possible upgrades from AEV have my full attention. :drool:
2005 Black Pow Wagon mods: DT Profab Steering Brace, Gibson superflow catback single exhaust system, Locker Bypass, Moog ball joints (see how long they last), New OEM track bar bushings, T-steering upgrade w/ Bilstein 5100 steering damper, Power everything, Heated leather seats, (keeps the better half happy), Rear window defrost, Bilstein 5100 shocks, 35x12.5x17 Toyo AT2 Extremes, Customized H2 alloy wheels, Original rock rails with family friendly steps welded on, Tri fold tonneau, Hi-lift extreme jack, Tool box along with all the essential PW gear. New winch cable, Winch TPS bypass, Cardan joint grease zerk discovery. New front grille assembly. Magnesium Chloride under coating.

If you ever happen to see me running somewhere, you should start running too. :)

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