
Wheel hop, axle wrap...
- Bill2014
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Pretty much any vehicle that I have ever owned could be made to go into a traction slip hop resonance with the right combination of conditions - predominantly driven by traction and power output. In the two years with my 2014, I have only experienced serious hop once - and cleared the resonant condition by flooring it because it would have been unsafe to stop at the time. Most of the time we can let off the gas a little, regain traction, and continue on without losing much momentum. So my solution won't be to change the truck - but to learn how prevent it or quickly adjust and drive through it. I'm not gong to obsess about the hop - and certainly won't throw any money at it 

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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
This issue has been around long as I can remember. Anyone here ever do a hole shot with a '70's mid size cheby with a coil spring end rear? You're lucky to keep your teeth in your mouth. Everything is a compromise in ride, handling, traction, braking, load capacity, etc.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
All I know is my Power Wagon is a bad son of a bitch hahaha
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Bill2014 wrote:Pretty much any vehicle that I have ever owned could be made to go into a traction slip hop resonance with the right combination of conditions - predominantly driven by traction and power output. In the two years with my 2014, I have only experienced serious hop once - and cleared the resonant condition by flooring it because it would have been unsafe to stop at the time. Most of the time we can let off the gas a little, regain traction, and continue on without losing much momentum. So my solution won't be to change the truck - but to learn how prevent it or quickly adjust and drive through it. I'm not gong to obsess about the hop - and certainly won't throw any money at it
X3RustyPW wrote:This issue has been around long as I can remember. Anyone here ever do a hole shot with a '70's mid size cheby with a coil spring end rear? You're lucky to keep your teeth in your mouth. Everything is a compromise in ride, handling, traction, braking, load capacity, etc.
Have you ever seen the wheel hop on a 3 axle concrete mixer trying to back up a dirt incline. I've seen a few over zealous drivers snap an axle or two, lose a driveshaft or blow the differential.

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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Was at the dealership looking around today and spied...


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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Ooo, it's so pretty and clean. I wish I could get my undersides that clean again. But, what are you spying? The bilstein looking shock at the top of the diff? Do those things actually help?
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Yes, that shock, that's a regular cab 2500 6.4 tradesman, had a utility bed but the guy says they order them bed delete and them put the bed on.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Is that diff breather just dangling in the air.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Looks like it's clipped to the bracket
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
PWRider wrote:Is that diff breather just dangling in the air.
The problem is the bracket sucks. I've already had mine come off of it twice before I zip tied it.Will wrote:Looks like it's clipped to the bracket
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Your ol girl is down for the count because you pounded on her too hard and then you go out and start looking for love in other places 

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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
olyelr wrote:Your ol girl is down for the count because you pounded on her too hard and then you go out and start looking for love in other places

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AOAA Summer '19.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
I'm looking at all options...RustyPW wrote:olyelr wrote:Your ol girl is down for the count because you pounded on her too hard and then you go out and start looking for love in other places
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viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2333
I only do what the majority of the 4 voices in my head tell me to. In most cases, I ignore two of them because one doesn't speak English, and I suspect the other is talking to someone else.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
So you're running around looking up skirts lol
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Sorry to dredge up old thread but I see people have tripled up the Bilstein anti-hop shock. Has anyone tried replacing it with a single, equivalent travel 3.0 or 2.5 Fox or King shock?
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Never heard of it but you certainly could.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Figuring out the valving could be tricky. It sounds promising.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
King and Fox have dynamometers in their shops to test existing valving. They could test the factory shock and provide a stiffer valving profile. Or you could just go straight to a .020" stack and see how it does.FirerescuePW wrote:Figuring out the valving could be tricky. It sounds promising.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Or add 2 more to the existing like me...DamageWagon wrote:King and Fox have dynamometers in their shops to test existing valving. They could test the factory shock and provide a stiffer valving profile. Or you could just go straight to a .020" stack and see how it does.FirerescuePW wrote:Figuring out the valving could be tricky. It sounds promising.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Or just let a little air out of your tires.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Way easier too...Reloaderguy wrote:Or just let a little air out of your tires.
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Re: Wheel hop, axle wrap...
Reloaderguy wrote:Or just let a little air out of your tires.


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