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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by wingerak92 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:00 pm

Mexican Import wrote:Roll over protection would be nice.
I would like to keep my rear camera functional if I had that sort of rear bumper/ spare tire holder.
Maybe just a new camera with an adapter and wiring harness that goes in the tire mount.
We'd have to reroute the wires from the tailgate to the bumper then.


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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:30 pm

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Mexican Import wrote:Roll over protection would be nice.
I would like to keep my rear camera functional if I had that sort of rear bumper/ spare tire holder.
Maybe just a new camera with an adapter and wiring harness that goes in the tire mount.
We'd have to reroute the wires from the tailgate to the bumper then.


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They do something like that for the AEV Wranglers already (the camera pokes through the spare tire), so for our Ram it wouldn't be a huge deal.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:40 am

Here's a couple of responses from AEV Dave from the AEV Forum:

Hey Everyone,

I decided to take a much needed vacation after SEMA and just got back...so in no particular order I will try to answer most of the questions I can on this thread:

I drove the truck to Moab immediately after leaving the SEMA show floor to take some photos, so yes there will be more photos shortly.

The Silver truck shown started as a Ram 2500 SLT Big Horn, Chrome package (we obviously de-chromed most of it), Cummins, Automatic, big nav, heated seats and heated steering wheel (best auto option EVER), etc...pretty nice truck, but sort of middle of the road. We knew we were going to add our own leather package, so the Laramie wasn't a big deal. This was also one of the first '14 2500s to land at a dealer, so our options were limited anyway.

I'm sure you could be into one of these trucks significantly less than a Brute Double Cab, but like the Raptor also, this is a totally different vehicle and can not be compared. I certainly wouldn't drive this over the Rubicon trail, but a Brute can do that easily, likewise I wouldn't tow much with a Brute...They all have their strengths, not much overlap really.

Yes, All of these parts will work on a Powerwagon as well. One of the biggest selling points to AEV for choosing the Ram was the number of configurations, there is one for almost every use and everyone. Single Cab, Crew Cab, Mega Cab, Rubber Floors and manual windows/Locks up to Laramie air conditioned seats and cameras, Cummins, HEMI's, different suspensions...Its really awesome.

My personal Ram is a Gen 3 2006, G56, Single Cab, Rubber Floors and manual everything... Ive been playing with it for a while, its kind of where this all started when I couldn't find a really good suspension option or bumper option for the type of use I do. The ARB bumper on it is the best one out there, but it is HUGE (it does look better when scaled with the 42s). As much as I'd like to, for my own personal reasons, I don't think we will be going back onto the Gen 3 platform, though when time permits I may take a good look at the bumper...may be doable for the more adventurous fabricators out there

Yes the suspension is a "spacer kit"...sorta not really: The reason we chose to base our suspension with the factory springs is for a couple reasons, the primary being that with all the different options of wheelbases, cab choices, powertrains and suspension types there are approx 37 different FRONT springs for just the 2500 and 3500. There are 18 different REAR springs for the 2500 alone. Most aftermarket companies have a gas and a diesel spring and that's it. Chrysler does everything they can to save pennies, so when they need to spec that many springs, there is a very good reason why. Now, if we were targeting the Raptor and deasert style prerunning, we may have made a different choice but we would have targeted a specific vehicle too...like a single cab/long bed, HEMI, Auto also. So with our goal of an expedition multipurpose intended suspension, the use of the factory springs made perfect sense since stocking that many different spring combinations makes no business sense.

I'm pretty sure the new 6.4 HEMI for the truck redlines at 4800RPM. Its totally different than the Apache 6.4 we use in the Jeep and that is used in SRT applications. Meant for torque, so don't picture it tearing up dunes...Though an Apache 6.4 swap should be easy enough.

A lot of people have asked if the flares will allow 37s with no lift, to be honest we haven't had the time to look at that yet, thats part of what we will be doing in the next few months. That being said, Im not even sure it will look good...might look kind of funny given how large the flares are currently, but it is something we will be playing with.

Yes the Cummins is heavy, but it has so many advantages...those who know they need a Cummins will understand the weight penalty (the rotating mass of a Cummins is the same as what a HEMI weighs!) but there are so many advantages for this type of use also. The 40s really help with the offroad work and make the Cummins work just fine for most use.

We just trim the fenders 2". Not replacement fenders.

My personal choice is still the leaf springs for this type of truck. Not sure the rear coils are really the best choice if you plan on towing much.

No control arm rubbing.

Don't have the numbers on the truck yet, departure, approach etc...will be taking those soon.

No to the timing question, too many variables. I can tell you that the public response has been terrific and we are full steam ahead. That being said, its one thing to show a product, its a whole different animal to actually launch a product.

At first we were going to leave the 1500 out, it really doesn't interest me all that much, however when they announced the 3.0L CRD, that made a difference, the bumper was early enough along, that we were able to engineer around the 1500, the flares are obviously the same, its really the suspension that will take the most time to develop and will probably be down the road a ways.
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Post by Juday » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:53 am

I'm sure going to be interested at what they have in store for us. Hopefully, it will be in the very near future.... :)
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Post by GunniPWguy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:09 am

Ready set go :cash:
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Post by TwinStick » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:00 pm

I stopped by my dealer today, looking for the new 2014 brochure---not avail yet here.

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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:52 pm

TwinStick wrote:I stopped by my dealer today, looking for the new 2014 brochure---not avail yet here.
Is somebody thinking about joining the 4th Gen Crowd?
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Post by TwinStick » Wed Nov 27, 2013 8:31 pm

No, I am trying to pay off current bills so we can retire. I just like to get them & memorize the PW options------should i ever want to. :twisted: I am NOT an intra-net man, i am a brochure man. I am the guy that goes in & tells the salesman what i want....not the one who lets him ask me what i might want. :lol: I read a lot at work......NO electronic gadgets allowed !!!

When trying to order my 2000 Dodge Dakota QC w/5.9 Gas & 3.92's, the salesman told me "you can't get that engine & those gears with that truck." I calmly said "yes, i can." He then went into his "I have been selling Dodge trucks for 17 yrs" chest beating speech. I then said to him "well, if you have been doing this for 17 yrs & you don't know that, I would fire you if i was the owner, because i just got this brochure a week ago & i know that i can, because it says so right there...& i pointed to it & showed him. Then i got up & walked out & told him he lost a sale cause hid didn't know squat about the trucks he sold. I am a challenging customer :lol: .

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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:13 pm

Good for you on working on your retirement. At 33 years old I'm trying to ensure my wife and I are ready to retire sooner rather than later (forums like this don't help that much). I bought my Power Wagon with the hope that I'll have this truck for a very long time. Maybe with a couple of AEV mods and the locker switch mod Myyoung is working on I will be able to accomplish keeping this truck for a long time.
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Post by myoung84 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:30 am

I'm staying far away from the dealer once the 14 wagons start shipping. They don't get many wagons, but when they do it's proudly displayed at the front of the lot with a clear view of the highway. Driving past it at least twice per day doesn't help much. Lol. That's how we ended up with the SRT8 Charger a few years ago. Saw it on the lot the day it was put out there and bought it the next day. I'm a BAD impulse buyer! The one thing going for me with this truck is I know how hard it will be to get back to stock and that my Carli goodies won't work on the new truck...

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Post by wingerak92 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:06 am

Man I wish I could impulse buy a vehicle. Took me 3 years if being able to afford it to purchase my current rig


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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:46 am

myoung84 wrote:I'm staying far away from the dealer once the 14 wagons start shipping. They don't get many wagons, but when they do it's proudly displayed at the front of the lot with a clear view of the highway. Driving past it at least twice per day doesn't help much. Lol. That's how we ended up with the SRT8 Charger a few years ago. Saw it on the lot the day it was put out there and bought it the next day. I'm a BAD impulse buyer! The one thing going for me with this truck is I know how hard it will be to get back to stock and that my Carli goodies won't work on the new truck...

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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:54 pm

So I had another chance to see the AEV truck this afternoon, and it kind of lost some of its allure to me. I still really like the wheels, but I'm having a hard time justifying any more mods for my truck. This whole maturing thing as I get older is a bummer- LOL!
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Post by myoung84 » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:00 pm

Lol. I'm growing up too and don't like it. I actually told my wife a couple days ago that I'm redoing my exhaust again to make it quieter. She just laughed at me.

I think the best solution is the mild Carli lift with 35s...

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Post by TwinStick » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:02 am

myoung84 wrote:Lol. I'm growing up too and don't like it. I actually told my wife a couple days ago that I'm redoing my exhaust again to make it quieter. She just laughed at me.

I think the best solution is the mild Carli lift with 35s...

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:rockon: Thats kinda my goal too.

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35" tires, probably a set of these: http://www.procompusa.com/prodDetail.as ... lID=109194
or another set of Cooper STT's.

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TwinStick wrote:
myoung84 wrote: 35" tires, probably a set of these: http://www.procompusa.com/prodDetail.as ... lID=109194
or another set of Cooper STT's.
I have a set of those on my SASed 02 Dakota QC in 35-12.50R15, hands down the quietest mud tire i have ever run. They work great in snow and ice also. BTW I checked the DOT codes on the procomps, they are made by Cooper.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Sat Dec 28, 2013 12:20 pm

The bummer of this whole dilemma is I just want 35" tires, but I really hate the idea of throwing a ton more money at this truck. If Dodge/Ram would have just done 35" tires to begin with I'd be thrilled, as would 90% of all Power Wagon owners.
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04Ram2500Hemi wrote:The bummer of this whole dilemma is I just want 35" tires, but I really hate the idea of throwing a ton more money at this truck. If Dodge/Ram would have just done 35" tires to begin with I'd be thrilled, as would 90% of all Power Wagon owners.
Why not just put them on there? I plan on doing it on my next set. Going to probably run the 315/70R17 Goodyear MT/R Kevlars. I don't plan on adding any lift to the front when I put them on. If I rub a little on the upper control arms at full lock, I can live with that.
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Juday wrote:
04Ram2500Hemi wrote:The bummer of this whole dilemma is I just want 35" tires, but I really hate the idea of throwing a ton more money at this truck. If Dodge/Ram would have just done 35" tires to begin with I'd be thrilled, as would 90% of all Power Wagon owners.
Why not just put them on there? I plan on doing it on my next set. Going to probably run the 315/70R17 Goodyear MT/R Kevlars. I don't plan on adding any lift to the front when I put them on. If I rub a little on the upper control arms at full lock, I can live with that.
I've thought about that, but I've seen some things that say 35" tires won't work on the 4th Gen. I'm also woried about fitting chains on the truck when I need them.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:53 am

myoung84 wrote:Lol. I'm growing up too and don't like it. I actually told my wife a couple days ago that I'm redoing my exhaust again to make it quieter. She just laughed at me.

I think the best solution is the mild Carli lift with 35s...

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LOL! This is why my exhaust is still stock, I like my quiet engine. Man I'm lame...
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04Ram2500Hemi wrote:
myoung84 wrote:Lol. I'm growing up too and don't like it. I actually told my wife a couple days ago that I'm redoing my exhaust again to make it quieter. She just laughed at me.

I think the best solution is the mild Carli lift with 35s...

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LOL! This is why my exhaust is still stock, I like my quiet engine. Man I'm lame...
When I bought mine it had a flow master 50 and was so loud it woke up the wife every time I would head out to go hunting. Needless to say the stock muffler is the only way to go to keep the peace in my home.
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:40 am

Here's a pic from the other day. I'm torn because I like the looks and the idea behind this truck, but I just wonder if 37" tires and no lift would look lame on our Power Wagon?
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Juday wrote:
04Ram2500Hemi wrote:The bummer of this whole dilemma is I just want 35" tires, but I really hate the idea of throwing a ton more money at this truck. If Dodge/Ram would have just done 35" tires to begin with I'd be thrilled, as would 90% of all Power Wagon owners.
Why not just put them on there? I plan on doing it on my next set. Going to probably run the 315/70R17 Goodyear MT/R Kevlars. I don't plan on adding any lift to the front when I put them on. If I rub a little on the upper control arms at full lock, I can live with that.
That's what I did. Threw caution to the wind and put 35's on with out any other mods. And so far I LOVE it! Yes, they rub the control arms, but I am 100% willing to live with that due to what a great difference the 35" tires make off road. The traction and ground clearance are miles above a 33" where I wheel (lots of mud and snow around here). The truck also looks wayyyyy better!
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Re: AEV Ram!

Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:58 am

JBM Power Wagon wrote:
Juday wrote:
04Ram2500Hemi wrote:The bummer of this whole dilemma is I just want 35" tires, but I really hate the idea of throwing a ton more money at this truck. If Dodge/Ram would have just done 35" tires to begin with I'd be thrilled, as would 90% of all Power Wagon owners.
Why not just put them on there? I plan on doing it on my next set. Going to probably run the 315/70R17 Goodyear MT/R Kevlars. I don't plan on adding any lift to the front when I put them on. If I rub a little on the upper control arms at full lock, I can live with that.
That's what I did. Threw caution to the wind and put 35's on with out any other mods. And so far I LOVE it! Yes, they rub the control arms, but I am 100% willing to live with that due to what a great difference the 35" tires make off road. The traction and ground clearance are miles above a 33" where I wheel (lots of mud and snow around here). The truck also looks wayyyyy better!
Do you have any pictures you could post of your truck with 35" tires? Just trying to picture it in my head a little.
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