Tire? 35's v 37's & Nitto v Toyo

[adeluca73]

Dang, looks small. Should of gone with 40's.

Honestly, there's not as a dramatic difference between the 33's & 37's as you'd think, at least by my Uncalibrated eye meter

[Colibri]

It's really only around a 10-11% increase in size if I recall correctly.

[OffroadTreks]

Yup, 40's.

[black_hawk8888]

Yup, 40's.

See, this is what I am afraid of. Once you get 35s, then you need 37s. Once you get 37s, they start to look too small and you need 40s. When does this vicious cycle end?

Mike: how have you liked your AT2s in 35? I saw all the stuff you did in Moab and the towing you do and wondered how the 35s changed your power and mileage with the stock gearing.

[OffroadTreks]

I haven't noticed a real drop in performance with towing but was more pronounced when not towing. You could tell there are heavier tires on the truck.

Mileage wasn't affected that much. Maybe 1mpg. That's part of the reason I chose the 35's over the 37's. If I didn't tow, I might have gone with 37's. Some of the smaller sizes might even be better for towing, but I was trying to maximize offroad ability with tow ability.

[adeluca73]

Yup, 40's.

Once I'm out West and retired from the military. I'll venture into a complete overhaul I'll do myself with all Theuren parts and depending on how much I drive the PW next 3 yrs while stationed at the Pentagon, and what the wear life is in these Nitto 37's, 40's are legitimate contenders.

[Reloaderguy]

Shoulda gone 42's.

[RustyPW]

You guys think too small. Go with 54".

[olyelr]

All this talk about 40's...

I still have a hard time believing how AEV makes 40's look normal with only a 3" lift over a regular 2500/3500 (only an inch and a half or so more than a power wagon). I know the fenders have a lot to do with it... but dang they almost look like a stock sized tire...

[olyelr]

37's vs 40's

[dodgeman324]

Ok, I'm officially sold, screw the lack of gearing options for my 3rd Gen, those 40's look SWEET! I may be super slow accelerating, and revved at 3000rpm doing 65 (or is it backwards, now my mind is trying to play math tricks on me), but those 40's look really really good.

[OffroadTreks]

It's all in those fenders. Those 40's look super sweet because of those fenders.

[Mr.Smith]

I wish someone made a setup like that for the 3rd gens. I'd be rolling on 40's asap, especially with such a clean fit & finish!

[Stickman]

How do they go about clearancing for turning? Or are they not made to turn while stuffing the suspension? Because I know with my 2" level which would put me right around that same height, maybe an inch less, that there is no way I'm clearing 37s while stuffed and turned without doing bodywork on the rear of the front fenders/rockers and pinch welds.

[loveracing1988]

How do they go about clearancing for turning? Or are they not made to turn while stuffing the suspension? Because I know with my 2" level which would put me right around that same height, maybe an inch less, that there is no way I'm clearing 37s while stuffed and turned without doing bodywork on the rear of the front fenders/rockers and pinch welds.

Stock 2500/3500 springs don't flex all that well.

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[olyelr]

How do they go about clearancing for turning? Or are they not made to turn while stuffing the suspension? Because I know with my 2" level which would put me right around that same height, maybe an inch less, that there is no way I'm clearing 37s while stuffed and turned without doing bodywork on the rear of the front fenders/rockers and pinch welds.

Stock 2500/3500 springs don't flex all that well.

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According to aev, they gain an inch more uptravel with their kit on 37's (so they must flex somewhat good enough). But that may just be over a normal 2500. A power wagon may already have more uptravel, i dont know.

As far as fitting the 40's, they do a bunch of clearancing with those fenders. Their kit also moves the axle forward 1 inch. They also may limit some of the uptravel with taller bumpstops, i dont know. But i do know that with aev they are not gonna release something with rubbing tires.

[OffroadTreks]

According to aev, they gain an inch more uptravel with their kit on 37's (so they must flex somewhat good enough). But that may just be over a normal 2500. A power wagon may already have more uptravel, i dont know.

As far as fitting the 40's, they do a bunch of clearancing with those fenders. Their kit also moves the axle forward 1 inch. They also may limit some of the uptravel with taller bumpstops, i dont know. But i do know that with aev they are not gonna release something with rubbing tires.

Personal Theory, that's why they haven't released and won't release those fender flares. Everyone wants them, but there is extra work beyond bolt on's that went into making those 40's fit on the AEV Prospector. You can see in the fender wells the new fender lining they've added too.

[olyelr]

According to aev, they gain an inch more uptravel with their kit on 37's (so they must flex somewhat good enough). But that may just be over a normal 2500. A power wagon may already have more uptravel, i dont know.

As far as fitting the 40's, they do a bunch of clearancing with those fenders. Their kit also moves the axle forward 1 inch. They also may limit some of the uptravel with taller bumpstops, i dont know. But i do know that with aev they are not gonna release something with rubbing tires.

Personal Theory, that's why they haven't released and won't release those fender flares. Everyone wants them, but there is extra work beyond bolt on's that went into making those 40's fit on the AEV Prospector. You can see in the fender wells the new fender lining they've added too.

Yea I dono, I admit that. But they do state they are working on a production set of those fenders. And no, its not just bolting them on... it involves cutting your fenders out of the way first.

[TommyG]

How do they go about clearancing for turning? Or are they not made to turn while stuffing the suspension? Because I know with my 2" level which would put me right around that same height, maybe an inch less, that there is no way I'm clearing 37s while stuffed and turned without doing bodywork on the rear of the front fenders/rockers and pinch welds.

The lift moves the front axle ahead an inch or inch and a half along with what appears to be some serious cutting of the wheel opening.

[RustyPW]

Ok, I'm officially sold, screw the lack of gearing options for my 3rd Gen, those 40's look SWEET! I may be super slow accelerating, and revved at 3000rpm doing 65 (or is it backwards, now my mind is trying to play math tricks on me), but those 40's look really really good.

My 35"s rub on the front of the rear fenders when flexed. To run anything bigger. I need a sawzal. would LOVE to run 40's.

[Stickman]

Lol, yep, 40s look so nice. I want to run them so bad but I keep looking at all the metal in the way and just shake my head and think "This truck cost $50k, cutting that up would be like throwing money into the trash just to fit bigger tires, when I already have 37s" Maybe way down the road I will, but not right now. I plan on getting Thuren arms that move the axle forward 1/2" ,so hopefully that makes a little room, along with his springs.

[TommyG]

We would likely need a lot more cutting than a 5th gen. Thuren talks (I think on his website) about the fact that you should only move the front axle ahead 1/2 inch like his arms do on the 4th gens or all sorts of unhappy things begin to happen in the front end. I wish someone made a less aggressive (less bulge, etc.) fiberglass front fender for our trucks. It would be easy and probably cost less.

[Reloaderguy]

I'm pretty happy with 37's, the truck looks balanced. The work needed to fit 40's isn't worth it. Fiberglass fenders are pretty junky regardless of the prep.

If you guys haven't seen the DOR LA's on instagram you might check them out. They look interesting.

[Mr.Smith]

It's too bad Bushwacker doesn't make injection molded front & rear fenders, their flares have such a great fit & finish.

[loveracing1988]

How do they go about clearancing for turning? Or are they not made to turn while stuffing the suspension? Because I know with my 2" level which would put me right around that same height, maybe an inch less, that there is no way I'm clearing 37s while stuffed and turned without doing bodywork on the rear of the front fenders/rockers and pinch welds.

Stock 2500/3500 springs don't flex all that well.

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According to aev, they gain an inch more uptravel with their kit on 37's (so they must flex somewhat good enough). But that may just be over a normal 2500. A power wagon may already have more uptravel, i dont know.

As far as fitting the 40's, they do a bunch of clearancing with those fenders. Their kit also moves the axle forward 1 inch. They also may limit some of the uptravel with taller bumpstops, i dont know. But i do know that with aev they are not gonna release something with rubbing tires.

The up travel isn't the problem, it is the springs not wanting to compress that causes issues with articulation.

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