Roll over point
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Roll over point
Does anyone have any idea what the roll over angle for a stock wagon on 37's? Anyone have an inclinometer in their wagon?
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Re: Roll over point
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2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826


Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.

Re: Roll over point
I know this isn't answering your question but BOY is it true what they are talking about in the thread above: Off-camber feels WAY the hell worse form inside the truck than when you look at it from the outside
My old truck didn't flex or articulate, it just tipped until the wheel touched the ground again. I'm looking forward to learning how the PW handles off-camber
My old truck didn't flex or articulate, it just tipped until the wheel touched the ground again. I'm looking forward to learning how the PW handles off-camber
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Re: Roll over point
Apparently I created a username and password for dodgetalk but can't remember any of it.
O well, I guess when my side mirror touches the ground, I'll know that's far enough.

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Re: Roll over point
I was looking at this before my trip to Moab and think it was somewhere north of 21° before you had to worry. I was on an 18° and felt safe. This was a stock wagon.
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Re: Roll over point
If the PW is level front to rear, but tilted to about 20 deg. to the side. You feel kind of safe. Now take that same 20 deg tilt to the side and add a 20 deg uphill or downhill tilt. It feels completely different. Throw in 3 wheels on the ground, one in the air with the same 20/20 tilt. And you feel oh shit moment coming on.
PWOC #53
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826


Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.

Re: Roll over point
All my friends in the Hummer community are in Moab this week and work is such that I can't go. It's killing me.dogcar3 wrote:Moab
it's the first time in.... 6 years I think... that I'm unable to make the spring trip
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Re: Roll over point
All I can say is that my power wagon has been very forgiving. knock on wood but as long as I take my time the truck seems to let me and everyone around me know when I'm at the tipping point. Granted I can't speak for the 4th gens but I do ride on 37"s with 4" long arm lift. Our long wheel base and weight usually keep our trucks planted on the trail pretty good. Make sure you go offroad with a few rednecks, it's in their instincts to stick to the correct side of a rig ready to flop! Just one 200lb redneck holding on will keep you on 3-4 wheels. In all seriousness I've never had the balls to stop and look at what angle I'm at. I'm usually secretly scared shitless and working my way out of the situation. But that's part of the fun!
Re: Roll over point
X2whitey wrote:I'm usually secretly scared shitless and working my way out of the situation.

Do it enough times and one's skill, experience and comfort zone improves, while pucker factor *might* decrease
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Re: Roll over point
Nothing like pulling a good vacuum on the seat.
After you're done. You can remove the seat cover from your ass. 


PWOC #53
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.
2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826


Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.

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Re: Roll over point
This is from older off road mag article. They installed 7" skyjacker lift on Gen2 V10 Ram. Originally it sported 35" went up to 37. In original condition it was very comparable to PW I'd guess. They put it on tilt table to see how lift would affect rollover angle. Obviously it worsened but original 49 degrees is actually very good. Most average SUVs do worse than that. After lift not so good.

Loss of articulation was less expected.

Riding higher of course.

Loss of articulation was less expected.
Riding higher of course.
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Re: Roll over point
I think I would cry if I ever got close to 49°on a side hill.
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Re: Roll over point
I have the bubble gauges and I find anything near 30 makes me cringe. Then I get out of the truck to look at the situation before proceeding and decide it does not look near as bad as it felt when in the drivers seat. I could not even imagine what 40+ would feel like in the drivers seat!
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Beginners reading list:
1) Quigley’s Anglo-American Establishment – 354 pages http://www.carrollquigley.net/pdf/the_a ... shment.pdf
2) Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution by Antony C. Sutton 165 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... tion-5.pdf
3) Wall Street & the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton 148 pages https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sut ... Hitler.pdf
4) Wall Street and FDR by Antony C. Sutton 177 pages http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125049.pdf
5) Dishonest Money by Joseph Plummer 175 pages http://joeplummer.com/dishonest-money.html
6) None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen 197 pages http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/libra ... y_1971.pdf
David Rockefeller: Memoirs (The story of traitors)
http://www.devvy.com/pdf/2006_November/ ... rnment.pdf
Re: Roll over point
My second gen has only ever rolled aggressively while under power. It has fallen over when in the 40+ degree range. I think the Thuren trackbar, and moving the fuel cell and 42" spare on beadlock, and rear winch, along with spares, tools, CO2 and spare fuel above the frame rails hurts it a lot. On 35"s with stock fuel tank and spare location, with 3" of lift but stock track bar, it never fell over. Even blowing 37"s off the beads on Moab Rim. (Very uncomfortable).
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