Importing axle from Canada

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Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Tue Jun 02, 2015 2:53 pm

So my saga continues. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... 803#p44753 It's not a diff a fault here but the whole axle is bent as I discovered on closer examination. Replacements are not that common not anywhere close to me anyway. Found a reasonable deal in Canada but guy is pretty vague on shipping across a boarder. What customs form would be required, freight forwarder etc. I'm not positive either. Any one has any experience or guidance? He can put it on a pallet but basically said I should take it from there.

If any one has a lead on reasonably prices fr axle let me know.
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Post by Limamikemike » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:23 pm

Why don't you source a run of the mill 2500/3500 axle locally and build it? Did the carrier I sold you not work?
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:24 pm

Carrier is great. Local 2500 likes axles are not dirt cheap either. By now I'm not sure how badly I wore out my current R&P. It might just might be usable but seems usually reusing R&P is not a great idea. Adding new set of gears , new seals, new pinon bearings, would most likely place it in same ball park as PW axle. Not to mention messing with setting pinion depth (I've done backlash few times, so just replacing carrier wouldn't bother me).

Actually just found sort of reasonably priced 06 PW axle locally. Real good question why is it not listed as interchange part.

Guess I shouldn't have jumped the gun so fast with carrier. Bent axle was certainly on my mind but I guess I just somehow (wanted to) dismissed that idea.
Thanks for smooth transaction for sure. Hopefully I can do somebody same service after I sort it all out.
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Post by 06wagon » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:39 pm

06 to an 08 should be the same. I know they changed the plugs for the wheels speed sensor on the hubs... But I thought that was 05-06.
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:48 am

Well my luck continues. Picked up an axle finally. And behold it's bent too. I was bit suspicious when I picked it up. Wet around center section. (to me now it seems dead giveaway of bent axle). My dad, just retired aircraft engineer, immediately said it ain't looking right. Lo and behold we were able stuff 0.016" feeler gauge along bottom of the tube. Exactly like one sitting under my track. Peace of sh.. engineering was fair assessment from my dad. :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Post by PWRider » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:04 pm

With this experience. Seems only reasonable choice is to return this sucker. Get replacement from Mopar. Or dump this junk and go back to Toyota or something.
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Post by old sole mopar » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:30 pm

Is it bent or is the tube loose in the center? Maybe you can press it back and weld it.

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Post by FirerescuePW » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:34 am

The plug welds that secure the tube to the center section have been known to break loose. It has happened to a few on the forum.
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:55 pm

There is a gap at the bottom where tube enters center section. Meanin the center section is deformed from load. Hole is no longer round but oval shape. Exactly same problem as one under my truck. If it was off-road only rig. I could see taking chance welding, trussing this axle. But for on road. It's really impossible to center round peg in the oval hole.
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Post by 2wagons1driveway » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:40 pm

Dude!!!! There's an awsome
Article a fellow dodge guy did about straightening his axle!!! Honestly amazing... Want to try it? I'll see if I can dig it up!!!


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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by 2wagons1driveway » Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:42 pm

http://dodgetrucksxtreme.com/index.php?topic=14042 here ya go man hope this helps! Doesn't look too hard.... Seriously. Then just have someone weld the bitch up. And do a truss ASAP.


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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:02 pm

Valiant attempt. Question remains is it fixed or not. T bend is very likely 2 dimensional. I dimension you can account for checking camber. He did ok there although it's still off. But other can be hidden correcting for toe-in easily.
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by azracer » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:07 pm

Call Sage at Carli, I think they have a jig to secure it in the proper alignment/geometry. They then weld on their low profile truss, full circle weld the tube to the case and drill and replug weld the OEM plug welds. See what they say. They can even use the welds to pull it back into specks as it cools.

I believe that if the tube is not bent then I think that they can help you.



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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:30 pm

Anyone ever compared Gen4 axle to Gen3. Housing looks a bit more stout. Higher load rating too.
Repairing mine don't seem make much economic sense
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Thu Jul 02, 2015 3:22 pm

From digging around seems like worthy upgrade. Only issue seem control arm bolts are larger in 2010-2013.
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Post by 2wagons1driveway » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:08 pm

Yep and most suspension companies are catering to the larger control arm bolt axles already...


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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by Mike-H » Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:46 pm

Your hunch is right about the wetness around the center section. Mechanic at work days when we bend a housing his first clues are leaking around the housing and the axle seals. He says whenever he sees that on our Power Wagons he checks the assembly to see if it's bent.

Also said a big thing to help preventing bent axles on these trucks is a quality bump stop. On the trucks he's put good bump stops on he hasn't seen a bent axle, except in the case of them losing one.

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Post by 2wagons1driveway » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:58 am

Boogie rated bumps.
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Post by PWRider » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:11 pm

Yep. Bumps thought crossed my mind. What's the bolt size difference? Can existing arms be drilled out to fit new bolts?
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by PWRider » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:21 pm

Looks like track width decreased between Gen3 and Gen 4 from 69.5 to 68.6. Wonder what gives. There is slight change in wheel offset from 43 to 45 but that would account for only 0.25" of track narrowing.
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Re: Importing axle from Canada

Post by 2wagons1driveway » Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:09 pm

PWRider wrote:Looks like track width decreased between Gen3 and Gen 4 from 69.5 to 68.6. Wonder what gives. There is slight change in wheel offset from 43 to 45 but that would account for only 0.25" of track narrowing.
I believe knuckles are different and u joint size was increased from third to fourth so maybe that's why knuckles are larger to facilitate full turning with larger joints? / bigger bearings?


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