Group Buy of Iron Pig Off Road Rear Diff Skid

[Ken G.]

Just an observation. May need to drill a few drain holes in it. Otherwise I could see it ponding and rusting.

It already has them. Here's a sentence from the write up I did about it under Member Builds:

. It also has drain holes in the bottom to let water and muck escape.

[ldgregory]

Ace, fixed the color and columns. The color was easy as you need to put the {code} block inside your {color} blocks. The columns were trial and error. I'll play with it again to see if tabs work better than spaces.

[AceMan]

Ace, fixed the color and columns. The color was easy as you need to put the {code} block inside your {color} blocks. The columns were trial and error. I'll play with it again to see if tabs work better than spaces.

Thanks, Leif. It's a little adjustment on my end with how it works in phBB. Let's see if I have this right. Below is what I copied and pasted from your fixes, removing "RootKit," since he was just drooling over this item at DT, but he has a CTD, so it doesn't apply.

And it looks like the color codes don't work within a CODE area. Or am I doing something wrong? I'm trying to make the "Name Source" header in blue, which should be hex #0000BF, and I even used the editor to select the color so I know it's right. And it didn't take the bold B and /B within the CODE area, so it's kind of saying these edits don't work within a CODE and the color, bold, etc, can only be instantiated before the CODE so it applies to the whole CODE area?


Updated: 7/24 1:20 PM EST


Current list for an Iron Pig Off Road Rear Diff Skid.
Final group-buy price will be posted soon.

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1     Ken G.         PWR
2     AceMan         DT
3     Juday          PWR
4     SFDpython069   DT
5     Rusty          PWR
6     BigRed2007	  PWR	(maybe, if APO shipment is reasonable) Note: hasn't voted yet

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[ldgregory]

Yeah, right now, it looks like {code} blocks do not allow BBcode inside of them. I'll look at the replacement code (translation to HTML) for the {code} block tag later.

[GunniPWguy]

Just an observation. May need to drill a few drain holes in it. Otherwise I could see it ponding and rusting.

It already has them. Here's a sentence from the write up I did about it under Member Builds:

. It also has drain holes in the bottom to let water and muck escape.

Right on. did not see that.

[Ken G.]

Just an observation. May need to drill a few drain holes in it. Otherwise I could see it ponding and rusting.

It already has them. Here's a sentence from the write up I did about it under Member Builds:

. It also has drain holes in the bottom to let water and muck escape.

Right on. did not see that.

It's all good.....are you planning on getting one?

[AceMan]

Yeah, right now, it looks like {code} blocks do not allow BBcode inside of them. I'll look at the replacement code (translation to HTML) for the {code} block tag later.

Thanks, Leif.

[GunniPWguy]

Right on. did not see that. [/quote]

It's all good.....are you planning on getting one?[/quote]

Yessir. put me down for one.

[Ken G.]

Right on. did not see that.

It's all good.....are you planning on getting one?[/quote]

Yessir. put me down for one.[/quote]

Cool! I haven't gotten a chance to give it any testing yet....just got back into town from a course I was teaching out west, but I'm hoping to link-up with VA Wagon Man & PDavey this weekend to test it out a little and post results. Pretty certain it'll put up with all manner of thrashing.

[pdavey]

Ken and VA if you want to wrench this weekend, Mac is coming down to my place and we are putting a 3" lift and replacing all the bushings on his XJ. Should be good fun

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[Ken G.]

Ken and VA if you want to wrench this weekend, Mac is coming down to my place and we are putting a 3" lift and replacing all the bushings on his XJ. Should be good fun

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Cool! I may take you up on that! Besides testing the skid plate a bit, I have a DT Profab Steering Brace to go on my rig. Have to hear from Eric first to see if he plans to do a link-up.

[Ken G.]

Ken and VA if you want to wrench this weekend, Mac is coming down to my place and we are putting a 3" lift and replacing all the bushings on his XJ. Should be good fun

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Peter....PM'ed you. Planning to meet up with you down there. Just need a date/time/location.

[VA_Wagon Man]

Hey guys, just finishing up with work. Sorry, been working seven days a week, covered up. I'm off tomorrow, but plan to sleep some, I'm plum worn out. If I do anything tomorrow, it'd probably be later in the day. I go back at it on Sunday. If you all meet up, I can catch up another time when things slow down.

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[Ken G.]

Just an update, I was able to scrape the skid over a hard high point locally (cement) to determine if any deflection occurred. It contacted at the rear portion under the diff case. No deflection of the skid at all, just a scrape and a little paint removal from the skid. Also, after even closer inspection, I discovered that there are eight total bolts attaching the skid to the case. I previously thought there were only six. There are the four that run up/down through the brackets near the pinion end, and four more along the rear of the diff, running fore/aft through the webbing along the bottom of the case. This is also the area where the entire skid butts against the bottom of the case to create hard mounting in order to not allow the skid to deflect or flex, which prevents it from cracking the flanges/webs on the case. I have been dealing with folks on DT that have been throwing me on the fire, thinking that the only attachment is via the four bolts and brackets near the pinion end, and how cast iron is not as strong as steel (granted). However, because it is hard mounted and butted against the case, the skid can't really move at all during a rock strike. That said, there is a chance that a direct, really hard, drop on the pinion end might cause deflection, but that has to be an extreme case where that part of the skid would be the only thing contacted during such a drop. That's got to be in the .001% chance range. Most all strikes in that area would be glancing blows during forward movement, and a drop will most likely hit the bottom of the skid near the case way before it would subsequently drop onto the pinion area. Even so, the brackets coming off the skid at the pinion area are gusseted, providing additional rigidity to combat any deformation there. Anyway, just wanted to post an update to help assuage any concerns out there. Really not enjoying the DT crowd....several just seem to crap on the idea without offering true suggestions to help. Only one guy went on to explain why he had concerns, and how it might be improved. That's cool, and that kind of constructive criticism is welcome. I tried to explain as best I could why the mounting points and design actually address his concerns and that the design is sound. I guess the photos don't really show everything needed, but the angles and light provided while underneath the truck don't allow much more without seeing with your own eyes. No...it would not survive an IED blast, but I still feel certain it will handle just about anything I'd encounter while wheeling. Then again, I don't jump my truck and I do believe in spotters. OK...rant complete.

[cruz]

I've been following the DT thread, but I could not reply to PCP there in a way that I can here...

[Ken G.]

Cruz....appreciate the support and backing me up. I had to bite my tongue and stop myself from posting much the same! Once again....thanks for having my back. The is good to have in your corner.

[pdavey]

After seeing it yesterday. I'm in. Iron Pig did a great job. Also thanks to Ken for helping out with with Mac's XJ lift (Pics to come). Great to hang out with my fellow PW brethren.

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[Ken G.]

Just ran the skid overtop a couple 53 lb. Kettlebells from my garage gym. It didn't work out as planned, the skid just drug the KBs along underneath Well, they did not harm the skid in any way and no deflection noted. On to more testing as soon as I can get it to some off road trail network. One of the DT people offered something as an improvement to the design. See the attached pic. I think that is actually a worthy improvement and I plan to have Iron Pig add that to the production model. That and add some steel between the skid and the bottom of the diff near the pinion area, to act as a bridge so that absolutely no deflection can force the brackets up and potentially crack the webbing there. That's a valid point. Although it's really screwed up that I have had to deal with some BS on that website where some booger-eater just wanted to talk smack.

In the photo, look at the line drawn in to depict a way to improve the strength at the other end of the bracket. That will help, along with maybe welding in small triangular gussets at the base of them to make a T style joint there. I will ask Iron Pig to include this design improvement in the production models. That said, with the way that it shares the load along the base of the diff case, I still think that the brackets at the flanges are very strong (also gusseted), and would endure everything except a direct hard drop right onto this part of the skid. More often than not, the forces that would be sustained at this part would be glancing blows. Additional steel is already added underneath it there. Don't want to end up with something that is just too heavy to be worth it, but the improvement in the photo would certainly help, without adding a great deal more weight.

[cruz]

Although it's really screwed up that I have had to deal with some BS on that website where some booger-eater just wanted to talk smack.

So far that hasn't been a problem on our forum, let's all do our best to keep it that way.

[Ken G.]

Big props and thanks to Cruz and Ace for having my back against the onslaught from the "Butt-Pirate 4x4 crowd". The one guy actually had a valid point once he settled down and stopped trying to claim he was the "Messiah-of-all-things-fabricated". Personally, I really could give a damn less whether they like it or not. Once I get done with all testing and get the production ones made (including any worthy improvements), those that want them from our own crowd will have them. I am certain it will be a sound addition to our rigs and provide lots of protection. The guys that want to put nitrous systems in their trucks are obviously not interested in how well they can negotiate a difficult trail, haul or tow heavy things, or travel overland on rugged terrain with nothing except what you can fit in or on your PW.

[Throttle 8]

I just went over to take a look. I generally don't post over there anymore but couldn't hold back.The extra bracing is a good idea----but he and PCP are asshats that would be spitting teeth if they were that ignorant in person! Might be a good idea to just have the thread closed over there----the only people that it applies to are over here. No use giving the trolls a soapbox.

[Ken G.]

I just went over to take a look. I generally don't post over there anymore but couldn't hold back.The extra bracing is a good idea----but he and PCP are asshats that would be spitting teeth if they were that ignorant in person! Might be a good idea to just have the thread closed over there----the only people that it applies to are over here. No use giving the trolls a soapbox.

No doubt.....and thanks for jumping in with an assist. I am fine with closing it down.

Ace or any PWR Mods....do any of you know how to do that over there? There were a few guys that did want a production one, and I don't want to leave them hanging. If they are over here on PWR, then good to go. There were one or two that aren't on PWR, I think. I guess we have to PM them to let them know the thread will be closed. If they want one, they need to join PWR. I could tell them that via a PM, right? Or is that against DT rules?

Either way, I am just fine with closing that down over there. Too many self-important a$$ clowns.

[FirerescuePW]

I know what you mean, Ken. I sat on the couch with the laptop for over an hour trying to formulate an appropriate response to PCP. I failed. Anything I came up with would have been ignorant, and I'm tired of that.
FYI, PCP and 06trxwhatever( the guy who gave you the metalurgic/snowflake lesson) are buddies. They are working on that rat rod project together (see PCP sig). I thought about going on that thread and being an asshat, but again, not how we want to act. Besides, it's a cool project, and I didn't want to bash it. That would be childish.

Their behavior reminds me of the way people on pirate4x4 treat people. They think it is their, and only their, forum and all "outsiders" are treated as such. I wonder if the DT admins really want DT to evolve to that? And it's funny how www.pirate4x4.com was able to remain in the thread, being a competing forum.

Rant complete. Sorry for venting. Back to our Original Topic...

[Ken G.]

I know what you mean, Ken. I sat on the couch with the laptop for over an hour trying to formulate an appropriate response to PCP. I failed. Anything I came up with would have been ignorant, and I'm tired of that.
FYI, PCP and 06trxwhatever( the guy who gave you the metalurgic/snowflake lesson) are buddies. They are working on that rat rod project together (see PCP sig). I thought about going on that thread and being an asshat, but again, not how we want to act. Besides, it's a cool project, and I didn't want to bash it. That would be childish.

Their behavior reminds me of the way people on pirate4x4 treat people. They think it is their, and only their, forum and all "outsiders" are treated as such. I wonder if the DT admins really want DT to evolve to that? And it's funny how http://www.pirate4x4.com was able to remain in the thread, being a competing forum.

Rant complete. Sorry for venting. Back to our Original Topic...

By all means...vent away! I'm right there with you! Yeah....the whole thread degraded into a "look at me and my fabrication greatness" forum! I've dealt with that type before. Never back down from some meathead trying to bully you. Never backed down growing up near Pittsburgh, never backed down in the Army or in combat, not gonna do it when a couple guys can't stop themselves from becoming A-holes. It's all good. I had some fellow Winch Mob back-up!

[Throttle 8]

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By all means...vent away! I'm right there with you! Yeah....the whole thread degraded into a "look at me and my fabrication greatness" forum! I've dealt with that type before. Never back down from some meathead trying to bully you. Never backed down growing up near Pittsburgh, never backed down in the Army or in combat, not gonna do it when a couple guys can't stop themselves from becoming A-holes. It's all good. I had some fellow Winch Mob back-up!

There are loudmouths and jealous assholes everywhere!
Got your back Ken!