Hard wire locker fuse question
Hard wire locker fuse question
Hey everyone i'm going to hard wiring my lockers on my 2005 Power Wagon. She has 156,000 miles and the smart bar just started acting up. For what I do I rather just have the lockers when ever I want and use the EVO Offroad manual conversion for the smart bar. So I just ordered up some new harnesses and i'm looking at some toggle switches. I'm going to run power to each one separately do you guys feel a 10 amp inline fuse from the battery is enough per switch? I did some reading and I know some of you have used 15 amp ones but that was because you had one power line being shared with both switches.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
10 amps will be plenty.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
myoung84 wrote:10 amps will be plenty.
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Hey there thanks for the quick reply I shall order up my switches and such now! Thanks again!

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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I've got the plugs for the axle connections if you need those. I can even crimp on the pins for you and provide as much wire as you need to get to your relays and can even wrap in wire loom...
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
Hey there I appreciate the heads up I ordered the plugs this morning from my buddies Dealership otherwise I would get them for you. I didn't realize you were selling the connectors and parts separately I will keep that in mind for the future for sure! As to the wire I have a bunch of different gauge spools I bought from Napa about a year ago so I should be all set. If I come across any missing pieces I will hit you up for sure! Thank you again for your help!
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I've also noticed some people just running an inline fuse from the battery to a toggle switch to the locker harness. From what I see going this route you could drain your battery if you forgot to turn the switch off. Is that the only drawback? I was planning on just going the inline fuse route.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I'd personally run it through a relay. I'm not a big fan of wiring direct like that. But yes, the only real drawback is leaving them on. Not going to hurt the lockers by doing so.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
Alright cool thanks again for the quick response!!
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I just decided I am going to hardwire the lockers and do the carli sway bar since mine has not engaged in almost 2 years. I will admit I have done no research yet, this was the first post I read, but is it as straight forward as 12 volts and a neg to each axle? What kind of plug is it, and would you be interested in selling me a set?myoung84 wrote:I've got the plugs for the axle connections if you need those. I can even crimp on the pins for you and provide as much wire as you need to get to your relays and can even wrap in wire loom...
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
That is correct, it's just 12V and ground to pins 1 and 4, doesn't matter which. I can certainly sell you whatever you need, whether it's just the plugs with pigtail wiring or enough wire to reach the cab wrapped in wire loom. Just shoot me a PM and let me know what you need.

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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
The carli sway bar will not fit our trucks. It is made for diesel or mega cabs and has completely different mounts. Get the EVO manual sway bar disconnect.BlkWgn wrote:I just decided I am going to hardwire the lockers and do the carli sway bar since mine has not engaged in almost 2 years. I will admit I have done no research yet, this was the first post I read, but is it as straight forward as 12 volts and a neg to each axle? What kind of plug is it, and would you be interested in selling me a set?myoung84 wrote:I've got the plugs for the axle connections if you need those. I can even crimp on the pins for you and provide as much wire as you need to get to your relays and can even wrap in wire loom...
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I would use a relay to send current to the lockers. I powered the in-cab switches from a keyed power source under the dash and ran power to the relays (one for eack locker) from an aux. fuse block under the hood. To prevent accidentally engaging the lockers at high speed in two wheel drive I remove the fuse from the aux. fuse block and reinsert it when I air down my tires.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
Yup buy the EVO swaybar disconnect I got mine in the mail the other day. Just waiting for it to warm up to hard wire my lockers and install the EVO, I bought mine from NorthRidge4x4.com.
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
The problem with the EVO disconnect is my sway bar has something broken and I am not sure that the evo will take care of it. With the engine off if you hit the button you can hear the motor run, but the bar has not engaged in over 2 years. I want to just replace it, get the on road handling back, and from what I can tell the Carli bar seems to flex almost as well if not as well as the wagon when it is unhooked. I may have to see about getting some different mounts made up. I thought Carli had a bar that would work with the wagon, I will send them an email and see what they say. If I was sure that the evo would work I would go with it and save a lot of cash
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I'm interested to here what they say...seems Dan Torino mentioned a few 3rd gen. Power Wagons were doing this same setup...let us know.BlkWgn wrote:The problem with the EVO disconnect is my sway bar has something broken and I am not sure that the evo will take care of it. With the engine off if you hit the button you can hear the motor run, but the bar has not engaged in over 2 years. I want to just replace it, get the on road handling back, and from what I can tell the Carli bar seems to flex almost as well if not as well as the wagon when it is unhooked. I may have to see about getting some different mounts made up. I thought Carli had a bar that would work with the wagon, I will send them an email and see what they say. If I was sure that the evo would work I would go with it and save a lot of cash
Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I have Hard wired mine about 9 months ago and have been very happy. I did wire them direct at first, and yes my wife was cleaning the truck (Good girl, I have) and she hit the switch and left it on for 4 days. Battery was shot but did not hurt the lockers. I have since wired them to my Cig Lighter (Dont smoke) and they turn off with the key. I have a 15amp fuse but feel a 10 would do fine. they lock so fast it is not funny...
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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
I just did this on Sunday to my 05. lockers and everything worked fine from factory switch, just wanted to remove the 4lo bypass that i have ran for about 4 yrs. I used Myoung84's extensions (6") for a 3G. Two relays, a DPDT switch , lotsa wire, and a 15A fuse to power it all. Took the extensions cut 1 and 4 spliced + to 1 and - to 4 wired each back to the respective relay, and the - to the chassis. The two center pins on the switch are jumped together with a switched 12v coming into the left center terminal. The rear locker is wired two one terminal with a jumper going to a terminal on the other switched side. Then the front locker is wired to the same side as the jumper from the rear but the other empty terminal. Allows rear only and f/r combo. The 15A fuse is wired to the aux battery post and is common to both relays for power supply to the lockers. The extensions keep the locker lights from flashing while you have the hard wire in place. Took about 4 hrs to do by myself. And the extension harnesses are top notch.
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I just got off the phone with Dan over at Carli, and he assured me that as long as the entire PW sway bar was removed (not sure why you would leave part of it) that the Carli bar would bolt right up.BigMike wrote:I'm interested to here what they say...seems Dan Torino mentioned a few 3rd gen. Power Wagons were doing this same setup...let us know.BlkWgn wrote:The problem with the EVO disconnect is my sway bar has something broken and I am not sure that the evo will take care of it. With the engine off if you hit the button you can hear the motor run, but the bar has not engaged in over 2 years. I want to just replace it, get the on road handling back, and from what I can tell the Carli bar seems to flex almost as well if not as well as the wagon when it is unhooked. I may have to see about getting some different mounts made up. I thought Carli had a bar that would work with the wagon, I will send them an email and see what they say. If I was sure that the evo would work I would go with it and save a lot of cash

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Re: Hard wire locker fuse question
BlkWgn wrote:I just got off the phone with Dan over at Carli, and he assured me that as long as the entire PW sway bar was removed (not sure why you would leave part of it) that the Carli bar would bolt right up.BigMike wrote:I'm interested to here what they say...seems Dan Torino mentioned a few 3rd gen. Power Wagons were doing this same setup...let us know.BlkWgn wrote:The problem with the EVO disconnect is my sway bar has something broken and I am not sure that the evo will take care of it. With the engine off if you hit the button you can hear the motor run, but the bar has not engaged in over 2 years. I want to just replace it, get the on road handling back, and from what I can tell the Carli bar seems to flex almost as well if not as well as the wagon when it is unhooked. I may have to see about getting some different mounts made up. I thought Carli had a bar that would work with the wagon, I will send them an email and see what they say. If I was sure that the evo would work I would go with it and save a lot of cash
Hey sweet I will def go that route if I end up breaking mine!!
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