Centerforce Clutch Review

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Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by MSparks909 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:25 am

Review of my Centerforce "Dual Friction" clutch after 600 miles:
Pros: Clutch grabs so much more positively than my worn out one. I didn't realize how much the old one was worn until after driving with the new one. I cannot start out in 2nd anymore like I used to with the old clutch. I have to use granny gear first because I have to slip the clutch too much to start in 2nd. I'm hoping to have this clutch last me roughly 100K miles if not more.
Cons: Sumbitch is super jumpy at low RPMs in 1st and especially R. It's a PITA to back a trailer with this clutch now without it bucking all over. If there was ever a case for unlockable hubs and 2WD Low this is it. If you keep the revs up to 1200ish it doesn't hop bad but that's not a great speed for slow speed trailer finesse. I just use 4Low and deal with the hard steering and driveline bind while backing on pavement. Rather do that than slip the brand new clutch.

Haven't towed anything heavy yet. Will probably do that in another week or so. Will post updates to how the clutch holds up over time.
2006 QC PW G56

Suspension: 3" Thuren Diesel coils, Carli Progressive leaf springs, Thuren DYSKO bumpstops, Thuren control arms, Thuren tracbar, Thuren draglink, King 2.5" remote reservoir front shocks/2.5" King DBL bypass rear shocks, limit straps, factory swaybar end links extended 2",

Engine/Drivetrain: Airaid full intake, Airflow snorkel, Magnaflow y-pipe, 3" Flowmaster Super 44, Jet 180 t-stat, locker bypass. Carli balljoints. greasable front u-joints, Gorilla Juice in the G56, Royal Purple 75W-140 in the diffs, Shell Rotella 5W-40 in the engine w/ oversize K&N filter.

Body/Appearance: Go Recon super white cab lights, Retro Solutions 55W 6000K HID kit for headlights/fogs and projector retro'd headlight, Carli front diff guard, Rockcrusher rear diff guard, lots of pinstriping & some dents

Interior: 12" JL Audio sub in custom box w/ adjustable bass knob and 500W JL Audio amplifier, headrest gun sling, CB radio

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by 06wagon » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:55 am

So far are you happy with it? I was thinking of one for my puller...
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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TrueCowboy426 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:57 pm

06wagon wrote:So far are you happy with it? I was thinking of one for my puller...
Same here. I going to be putting a clutch in mine come mid summer/fall, and looking upgrade vs going stock again.
2007 Dodge Power Wagon - Inferno Red Quad Cab, G56, KRC 210X cam, SRT8 JGC seats, 35x12.50 Toyo MT's, Offroad lights behind the grill, Warn wireless winch remote, Carli front Diff Guard, Carli Long Travel Air Bags, On board air complete w/ train horns, homemade hidden gooseneck hitch, Homemade locker bypass, upgraded Mopar steering box, Centerforce clutch
1998 Dodge 2500 Laramie, QCSB 4x4. 24V cummins, completely rebuilt chassis with '01 1500 body installed, full gauges, Edge drag comp box, +150hp injectors, performance 47re built by me, 35" Toyo MTs on 3rd gen wheels.
2002 Dodge Ram 1500 ST 4x4 Quad Cab 4.7L Bright Silver, HO Cams, 12,000 lbs Winch mounted behind bumper, 4.56's, 2500 factory tow hooks, 35x12.50 Toyo MT's, Air-Lift Ride Control bags, homemade hidden ball gooseneck hitch.
1987 W100 - carburated 5.7 Hemi/727 combo, 35" Toyo MT's. Ramcharger D44 w/ warn hubs, Warlock seats, 2nd gen center console
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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by MSparks909 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:40 pm

I'm happy with it so far. I'll be towing 6,500 pounds with the truck this weekend on the new 37'. I'll do some full throttle pulls in 3rd/4th gears and see if I feel any slippage. I doubt I will but I'll let you know if I do. I felt some slight slippage at high RPM's when towing 8-10K pounds with my old clutch. Not much, but it was there. I think this clutch is one of the best options for our trucks right now. One of the only aftermarket options that's better than stock really.
2006 QC PW G56

Suspension: 3" Thuren Diesel coils, Carli Progressive leaf springs, Thuren DYSKO bumpstops, Thuren control arms, Thuren tracbar, Thuren draglink, King 2.5" remote reservoir front shocks/2.5" King DBL bypass rear shocks, limit straps, factory swaybar end links extended 2",

Engine/Drivetrain: Airaid full intake, Airflow snorkel, Magnaflow y-pipe, 3" Flowmaster Super 44, Jet 180 t-stat, locker bypass. Carli balljoints. greasable front u-joints, Gorilla Juice in the G56, Royal Purple 75W-140 in the diffs, Shell Rotella 5W-40 in the engine w/ oversize K&N filter.

Body/Appearance: Go Recon super white cab lights, Retro Solutions 55W 6000K HID kit for headlights/fogs and projector retro'd headlight, Carli front diff guard, Rockcrusher rear diff guard, lots of pinstriping & some dents

Interior: 12" JL Audio sub in custom box w/ adjustable bass knob and 500W JL Audio amplifier, headrest gun sling, CB radio

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TwinStick » Wed May 15, 2013 12:06 am

So, how are you digging it so far ??? How long will a clutch last after you can smell it ? :doh:

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by 06wagon » Wed May 15, 2013 12:50 pm

I've got 68k on my factory clutc with about 60-70 sled hooks to it. Coming out of the hole from 2000 rpms to 3500-4000 rpms. A couple times I slipped it more than I should have, got a good odor, but it still held.
2006 Power Wagon. "Stockish"
A few parts added and deleted to make it go 300' Getting Farther from Stock!!!
1974 Power Wagon..... Going to get a Gen 3 HEMI swap. Future tow rig for the 06.
2016 Power Wagon Laramie. Delmonico Red. 20x12 Predator II's with 33" toyo's. Firestone air bags. B&W gooseneck. More extras to come....

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TrueCowboy426 » Wed May 15, 2013 6:53 pm

Looking forward to hearing how Miles likes his clutch with a few more miles.

My clutch isn't that old (~20,000 miles on it) but at a pull last fall, that there was a pretty good haze in the air, and the announcer in the booth (80' away from the track, elevated in a booth) commented that on the nice clutch smell. I did get second though :mrgreen: So far it's still holding, but I definitely know it's hurt, and doesn't have the quick hook/engagement it did have.
2007 Dodge Power Wagon - Inferno Red Quad Cab, G56, KRC 210X cam, SRT8 JGC seats, 35x12.50 Toyo MT's, Offroad lights behind the grill, Warn wireless winch remote, Carli front Diff Guard, Carli Long Travel Air Bags, On board air complete w/ train horns, homemade hidden gooseneck hitch, Homemade locker bypass, upgraded Mopar steering box, Centerforce clutch
1998 Dodge 2500 Laramie, QCSB 4x4. 24V cummins, completely rebuilt chassis with '01 1500 body installed, full gauges, Edge drag comp box, +150hp injectors, performance 47re built by me, 35" Toyo MTs on 3rd gen wheels.
2002 Dodge Ram 1500 ST 4x4 Quad Cab 4.7L Bright Silver, HO Cams, 12,000 lbs Winch mounted behind bumper, 4.56's, 2500 factory tow hooks, 35x12.50 Toyo MT's, Air-Lift Ride Control bags, homemade hidden ball gooseneck hitch.
1987 W100 - carburated 5.7 Hemi/727 combo, 35" Toyo MT's. Ramcharger D44 w/ warn hubs, Warlock seats, 2nd gen center console
1987 Dakota - RCSB, 413 big block, LT headers.
And a few jeeps for good measure.

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TwinStick » Wed May 15, 2013 8:55 pm

Yeah, i got some purty good smell from mine last night. Leaving work, some fine person was on their cell phone not paying attention, so i floored it in 2nd to avoid them hitting me. A bad day all the way around for me yesterday & that just topped it off. I hope i got some life left in it. Have to be gentle towing this year with it. :cash: :cash: :cash: Muffler is about shot too.

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by MSparks909 » Mon May 20, 2013 9:53 pm

I'm really liking the clutch so far. Have about 1,500 miles on it now. Have towed 5,000 pounds several times. No slipping at high RPMs like the old clutch. Thing is super grabby. I have to start in 1st with these 37's where I could start in 2nd with my old clutch because it didn't grab near as much. There is some minor bucking at low RPMs in R when backing a trailer but if you keep the RPMs while backing around 1,000 or higher its fine. Truck is going back to the shop tomorrow though. I think I got a defective throw out bearing. It makes quite the noise with the clutch engaged!
2006 QC PW G56

Suspension: 3" Thuren Diesel coils, Carli Progressive leaf springs, Thuren DYSKO bumpstops, Thuren control arms, Thuren tracbar, Thuren draglink, King 2.5" remote reservoir front shocks/2.5" King DBL bypass rear shocks, limit straps, factory swaybar end links extended 2",

Engine/Drivetrain: Airaid full intake, Airflow snorkel, Magnaflow y-pipe, 3" Flowmaster Super 44, Jet 180 t-stat, locker bypass. Carli balljoints. greasable front u-joints, Gorilla Juice in the G56, Royal Purple 75W-140 in the diffs, Shell Rotella 5W-40 in the engine w/ oversize K&N filter.

Body/Appearance: Go Recon super white cab lights, Retro Solutions 55W 6000K HID kit for headlights/fogs and projector retro'd headlight, Carli front diff guard, Rockcrusher rear diff guard, lots of pinstriping & some dents

Interior: 12" JL Audio sub in custom box w/ adjustable bass knob and 500W JL Audio amplifier, headrest gun sling, CB radio

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TwinStick » Tue May 21, 2013 12:10 am

Did you have to replace the flywheel ? What kinda price am i looking at, for the clutch & then for the labor ??? Any idea ???

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by 06wagon » Tue May 21, 2013 1:27 am

What kind of mileage or treatment did they tell you for break in?
2006 Power Wagon. "Stockish"
A few parts added and deleted to make it go 300' Getting Farther from Stock!!!
1974 Power Wagon..... Going to get a Gen 3 HEMI swap. Future tow rig for the 06.
2016 Power Wagon Laramie. Delmonico Red. 20x12 Predator II's with 33" toyo's. Firestone air bags. B&W gooseneck. More extras to come....

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by MSparks909 » Tue May 21, 2013 10:48 am

Twin: Parts were around $500. Labor was about $500 as well (in my case at least). How many miles do you have? Unless you have serious slippage I would hold off on replacing it. Not needed IMO. I made it to 90K, 50K of those miles were with 37's. Towed anywhere from 4-10K on a regular basis. Did just fine. Only reason I replaced it was because I took it to the shop to have my throwout bearing replaced and they recommended I replace it. They re-used my original flywheel.

06: Centerforce recommended street driving for a couple hundred miles to break it in. No long interstate drives or anything. I tried to heed their break-in advice but I ended up just driving how I normally do. 80+ mile highway trips around 60mph with some stop-and-go traffic through small towns. Didn't do any full throttle runs until I had a couple hundred miles on it.
2006 QC PW G56

Suspension: 3" Thuren Diesel coils, Carli Progressive leaf springs, Thuren DYSKO bumpstops, Thuren control arms, Thuren tracbar, Thuren draglink, King 2.5" remote reservoir front shocks/2.5" King DBL bypass rear shocks, limit straps, factory swaybar end links extended 2",

Engine/Drivetrain: Airaid full intake, Airflow snorkel, Magnaflow y-pipe, 3" Flowmaster Super 44, Jet 180 t-stat, locker bypass. Carli balljoints. greasable front u-joints, Gorilla Juice in the G56, Royal Purple 75W-140 in the diffs, Shell Rotella 5W-40 in the engine w/ oversize K&N filter.

Body/Appearance: Go Recon super white cab lights, Retro Solutions 55W 6000K HID kit for headlights/fogs and projector retro'd headlight, Carli front diff guard, Rockcrusher rear diff guard, lots of pinstriping & some dents

Interior: 12" JL Audio sub in custom box w/ adjustable bass knob and 500W JL Audio amplifier, headrest gun sling, CB radio

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by TwinStick » Tue May 21, 2013 12:55 pm

Thanks. Only 31,500 miles on mine. Mostly towing at max load. I pulled a 2500HD out of a deep, long, snowdrift once. Thought i put it in Lo range but i forgot to & was actually in Hi range. Used 2nd gear & romped it. I could smell it then. It pulled him out alright, at about 30 mph in reverse. It's been squaking ever since then, about 20,000 miles.

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by 08TwinStickPW » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:29 pm

How bout an update on this, might need a new one and might upgrade to a center force.
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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by MSparks909 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:38 am

Clutch is still doing good. Towed 2200 miles round trip from NC to the FL Keys with a 4K pound boat. Clutch did excellent. Have also towed 12K about 20 miles. Overweight, but I had to get it moved for a friend. Clutch didn't slip then either, which surprised me. Heavy throttle and towing + 37" Toyo's would make my old clutch slip. Centerforce is good to go so far. Still "grabby" in R when backing a trailer but not a huge deal. The one thing I don't like is the noise at idle. Sounds like someone is shaking a miracca(sp?) next to the truck.
2006 QC PW G56

Suspension: 3" Thuren Diesel coils, Carli Progressive leaf springs, Thuren DYSKO bumpstops, Thuren control arms, Thuren tracbar, Thuren draglink, King 2.5" remote reservoir front shocks/2.5" King DBL bypass rear shocks, limit straps, factory swaybar end links extended 2",

Engine/Drivetrain: Airaid full intake, Airflow snorkel, Magnaflow y-pipe, 3" Flowmaster Super 44, Jet 180 t-stat, locker bypass. Carli balljoints. greasable front u-joints, Gorilla Juice in the G56, Royal Purple 75W-140 in the diffs, Shell Rotella 5W-40 in the engine w/ oversize K&N filter.

Body/Appearance: Go Recon super white cab lights, Retro Solutions 55W 6000K HID kit for headlights/fogs and projector retro'd headlight, Carli front diff guard, Rockcrusher rear diff guard, lots of pinstriping & some dents

Interior: 12" JL Audio sub in custom box w/ adjustable bass knob and 500W JL Audio amplifier, headrest gun sling, CB radio

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Re: Centerforce Clutch Review

Post by 08TwinStickPW » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:53 am

Thanks for the update, my only concern with the Centerforce is the "grabby" felling and other reviews that say its more of an on/off clutch with no slipping.

Like you stated it make slow maneuvering a bit difficult, how is the clutch with out the trailer/load?
08' Dodge RAM PowerWagon (Laramie, 6 Speed)
GO: Diablo tuned, AEM drop in, Magnaflow "Y" and 24" muffler (dumper over the axle)
Traction/Suspension:305-70-17 Toyo AT2's, DT Profab Steering Brace, Carli front diff guard.
See: Silver stars headlights, 9012 fogs, reprogrammed for fogs with high beams, (2)6" KC LED gravity in driving/spread behind the grill
Tunes:Pioneer AVH-X5800BHS w/stock infinity amp, Infinity ref. dash/reardoor speakers, kappa component front door, JL rear stealth box and JX500.1d.
Other: Dually marker light under the tailgate, 2013+ Red hemi badges, Bedtred bedliner and mopar rubber mat, Wheel well liners, rubber flaps, Bakflip MX4, W2W Mopar steps (bedlined black), weathertech front mats and rain deflectors.

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