Idle Up Feature for winching

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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by TwinStick » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:39 pm

FordyceCreekTrail wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:41 am
Biggest winch so far I have had is 10K. But lets be perfectly clear, never been a fan of Warn Winches. Back when I started winching in the late 80s early 90's you had Ramsey and Warn. And either would last 0-3 uses(0 was COMMON for Warn, even rescued a ranger with a new, un-used, dead Warn) then need to be thrown away, not worth even rebuilding. (yes Warn had an old winch that is famous to this day, but not built then) Those winches had staggering electric draws as well. For years I went to slow hydraulic winches. Then other companies started rolling out quality winches. I own a T-max for example.(other then crappy remote no issues) Years after Warn started rolling out an endless ocean of new models, finally leading to very reliable, durable and water proof ones. All be it at a premium cost.

Anyhow no vehicle can handle these larger winches with out some upgrade. But contrast the 12K T-max vs Warn, 370 vs 440 amps. So this Warn is hungry for Amps. With Duals it will only be a 60 amp difference with some throttle. That is not bad at all. I agree, even with a less hungry winch duals for the cost should be standard. And maybe checking that box gets you the idle up flash as well....Oh and you want to go 16.5Ti? Thats a 507 max amp draw :jawdrop: And you want to have some lights on at night while winching.... :P
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by yellowranger1 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:46 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:42 am
Found this PDF on RamTrucks.com. The last line on the PDF has direct application to this thread and is sad if true.

"The idle up function is not available and cannot be added to any other than the vehicles listed above. It is not available on Pickup trucks." :cry:
So can anyone that owns a newer hemi truck confirm the high idle feature works, or is it in fact not available on pick ups any longer as stated above? Tried to engage it on mine and wasn't surprised when it didn't work lol. When 4lo is engaged, the rpm bumps up some, so seems like it should be possible. It would be a nice feature to have, my buddy has it on his cummins and uses it while running his compressor.

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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:25 pm

If I ever get my truck the dealer shop is going to hook it up and look.
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:04 am

Reviving an old thread, rather than starting a new one.

So there was a dead battery on the first responder rig at our volunteer fire department, it's a diesel so it actually had two dead batteries. We had a 120V battery charger on one battery and I had my jumper cables connected to the other battery and I was thinking, "Boy I sure wish I had some kind of idle up feature on my truck, so I didn't have to sit here with my foot on the throttle!"

Well I started looking under the dash to see if I could rig up some kind of old school cable control or something, and then it dawned on me that the answer to my problem was sitting in my cupholder.

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First I grabbed a penny and stuck it in between the throttle lever and the sensor housing, which brought the idle speed up to 1000 RPM.
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Next I grabbed a nickel to give that a try and it brought the idle up to 2000 RPM, which seemed to work better for maintaining a good rate of charge.

In very short order we had the fire truck started and running on its own power. One tap on the throttle and the coin dropped to the floor. Anyhow, that was my solution in a pinch and I liked the results, so I think I'll try to store this in my longterm memory banks. Your milage may vary, use at your own risk.
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by RustyPW » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:00 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:04 am
Reviving an old thread, rather than starting a new one.

So there was a dead battery on the first responder rig at our volunteer fire department, it's a diesel so it actually had two dead batteries. We had a 120V battery charger on one battery and I had my jumper cables connected to the other battery and I was thinking, "Boy I sure wish I had some kind of idle up feature on my truck, so I didn't have to sit here with my foot on the throttle!"

Well I started looking under the dash to see if I could rig up some kind of old school cable control or something, and then it dawned on me that the answer to my problem was sitting in my cupholder.


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In very short order we had the fire truck started and running on its own power. One tap on the throttle and the coin dropped to the floor. Anyhow, that was my solution in a pinch and I liked the results, so I think I'll try to store this in my longterm memory banks. Your milage may vary, use at your own risk.
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by Mule007 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:27 am

:rockon: Great tip David,,thanks for the pics & sharing,,,much appreciated!
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by ghaugo » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:55 am

I will be trying this during my next winching.
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by 13powerwagon » Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:53 pm

Thanks for sharing, this is brilliant.
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Re: Idle Up Feature for winching

Post by RustyPW » Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:18 pm

If you have a 2013 to 2021 2500. You can use a Tazer to up your idle rpm for using a a winch. You can select between 1250 or 2,000 rpms.

https://www.zautomotive.com/product/z_t ... ss-modules

I have one installed in my Gladiator.
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