Stellantis is clearly in full melt down mode unfortunately. But I am needed to replace my 2018 as it approaches 200K especially as the engine continues to fall apart after numerous exhaust manifold repairs and now a failing lifter can be heard. This roll out of one at Sema with an ugly grill, nerf bars and 20" bling blings has me concerned. Not to mention this roll out is so past due. Instead of all the crap on the Sema version, I was looking for;
1. Engine design flaw fixes
2. Sway bar Disconnect and front locker design flaw fixes
3. 35s on a 17" Rim
4. More Power
5. More pay load and towing
6. Efficiencies if possible
7. Factory sliders
8. Better Bumper designs
9. Better exhaust design
And so on
Granted other things since my 2018 have been resolved such as moving away from the Vat of Lead transmission or going to synthetic line, but still cannot believe it will all be fluff and stickers after such a huge delay.....
2025 Thoughts
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2025 Thoughts
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.
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Re: 2025 Thoughts
Hold on a minute....I found a link to https://www.fleetequipmentmag.com/cummi ... est-drive/ on Pirate 4x4. Could we be getting this and a big part of the delay? They keep mentioning testing cooling systems on the HDs for the delay. 660lb feet of torque! Take my MONEY!
2018 Flame Red, Moon Roof, Dual Alternators, Ram Boxes sadly Ram ran out of, Luxo Package with 8.4 UConnect, Enter and Go with remote start, Auto Wipers and Lights. Added missing skids and White Knuckle sliders. 35" BFG KM3s. Procal and Warn wireless remote for winch.
Re: 2025 Thoughts
Looks like nothing too exciting changed on the 2500 gassers. The new transmissions on the CTD looks pretty good.
2016 Laramie; 5.13s, Locker Bypass, WK sliders, 37” Toyo RT Trail, BD 2LoKit, ProCal, Hemifever tune, Airbags/Cradles, Thuren 2.5" King w/ Boogie Bumps, Warn SDP6000
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Re: 2025 Thoughts
I have the ZF 8 speed transmission in my 2022 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon diesel. The transmission is great. 

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2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826
Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
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Russ
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2008 POWER WAGON RC
My build thread. http://forum.powerwagonregistry.org/vie ... =13&t=2826


Moab '09, '10, '12, '14, '20, '22
Rausch Creek - Summer '10, Spring-Fall '11, Spring '12, Summer '13, Summer '14, Summer '15, Summer '16, Summer '17, Summer '18, Summer '20, Summer '22, Summer '23, Summer '24,
AOAA Summer '19.
Russ
NRA - Benefactor, Golden Eagle.

Re: 2025 Thoughts
Yeah, my g/f has th ZF in her 2016 BW 650i. That thing shifts amazing. (And it's always fun squealing the tires on 2-3 upshift.)
The CTD actually has a version of the medium duty Powerline.
https://www.zf.com/products/en/cv/products_76738.html
I would hazard to say this will be by far the best transmission in a pickup. The GM/Internationals 4500/5500 that use the Allison 1700 are probably the only ones close and it's still a 6spd.
The CTD actually has a version of the medium duty Powerline.
https://www.zf.com/products/en/cv/products_76738.html
I would hazard to say this will be by far the best transmission in a pickup. The GM/Internationals 4500/5500 that use the Allison 1700 are probably the only ones close and it's still a 6spd.
2016 Laramie; 5.13s, Locker Bypass, WK sliders, 37” Toyo RT Trail, BD 2LoKit, ProCal, Hemifever tune, Airbags/Cradles, Thuren 2.5" King w/ Boogie Bumps, Warn SDP6000