Correct Recovery?

[HvacWagon]

Hey guys I was going to post this in recovery, but it doesn’t seem like it’s visted that often. If needed to remove just let me know.

I’ve gone trail riding when I was younger, hell now that I think about it about 10yrs ago. Anyway I’ve had my truck nearly a year and have only taken it off trail but hit nothing serious. In fear of getting stuck with nobody to call on. I’ve got a few friends with lifted trucks, even sitting on larger rubber than the wagon. They all refuse to take their rigs out, so with that I’ve decided to take out the trail alone.

Now when I was younger we really only used ratchet straps or chains tied together using a tire in the middle. (This absorbed some shock and helped prevent breaks) Just purchased some new recovery gear and hope to take the rig out alone and put her to the test.

Picked up an ARB 17.5k snatch strap
ARB 30k snatch block
ARB 17.6K winch extension strap
ARB 10’ tree saver strap.

Planning on getting some Crosby bow shackles.

My #1 rule was always to travel with atleast two trucks. Doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen, so it’s now rule #2 lol.

Just wanted some insight if you think this equipment can handle the load of the truck or any recommendations on other gea I should carry.

[Retired BLM Rig]

If you're going solo, I would recommend a PullPal.

[HvacWagon]

I was looking at something like this. The Smittybuilt wasp. I do like the fact the pullpal is made here, and looks really solid.

Any expierence with using the pullpal? I’d like to have some kind of Anchor really, I’d rather have too much equipment being by myself.

[Retired BLM Rig]

Any expierence with using the pullpal? I’d like to have some kind of Anchor really, I’d rather have too much equipment being by myself.

I haven't needed it yet, but I wouldn't go solo without it. Even in a group it would come in handy providing an anchor point where none exists.

[TankerZak]

Any expierence with using the pullpal? I’d like to have some kind of Anchor really, I’d rather have too much equipment being by myself.

I haven't needed it yet, but I wouldn't go solo without it. Even in a group it would come in handy providing an anchor point where none exists.

Pull Pal is used by the military. Don't need to worry about if it'll work. Just if you can afford it and if you can fit it, lol.

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[Retired BLM Rig]

It looks like fit and storage will be easier now with the new Fastrack mount.

[Low_Sky]

You absolutely need a winch anchor. Pull-pal or the tools and materials to make a good old fashioned dead man. Naturally occurring anchors have a funny habit of not being there when you need one.

You need to be aware that winching forward isn’t always a good idea, and solo it can be hard to go any direction but forward without a rear winch.

A solo trip can go from lots of fun to miserable real fast, depending on terrain and conditions.

Wherever you go, make sure you have a rescue and communication plan in case you have a breakdown, and are equipped to wait for help to arrive.


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[Low_Sky]

Picked up an ARB 17.5k snatch strap
ARB 30k snatch block
ARB 17.6K winch extension strap
ARB 10’ tree saver strap.

17.5k snatch strap - undersized for your truck. You could use this for snatch recoveries of lighter vehicles, but another HD truck recovering your HD truck could break this strap. Their 33k snatch strap is more appropriate for your truck.

17.6k winch extension - Fine for singe line tension. Don't run your winch line through the snatch block, and rig the extension between the snatch block and an anchor.

Snatch block and tree saver, OK.

[KevinABQ]

I prefer the Columbus McKinnon or Crosby shackles over “off-road” hardware. Iirc, the 12.5 ton alloy shackle will break at >50 tons. The off-road stuff is usually specified at 50% of breaking strength. And shock loading starts at 200% of the load.

The soft shackles are also a possibly. Not much cheaper but lighter. Someone went over how to tie your own here a year ago iirc.

[HvacWagon]

Picked up an ARB 17.5k snatch strap
ARB 30k snatch block
ARB 17.6K winch extension strap
ARB 10’ tree saver strap.

17.5k snatch strap - undersized for your truck. You could use this for snatch recoveries of lighter vehicles, but another HD truck recovering your HD truck could break this strap. Their 33k snatch strap is more appropriate for your truck.

17.6k winch extension - Fine for singe line tension. Don't run your winch line through the snatch block, and rig the extension between the snatch block and an anchor.

Snatch block and tree saver, OK.

so if I get a higher rated winch extension can I then use it for a double line pull?
I really only planned to use the snatch strap for others, wanted to have it on hand. Guess it would be wise though to spend the extra coin and get a rated pull for this truck.

I’ve got some barbaric ideas on how to pull the truck backwards. I won’t be totally by myself. Of course I’ve got passengers willing to go, they just don’t want to take their vehicles.

I’ll never be too far out of cell service or away from somewhere I couldn’t get to a house realitivley easy. I suppose once I finally get it out and get the bug I’d have to start looking into emergency situations.

[HvacWagon]

I prefer the Columbus McKinnon or Crosby shackles over “off-road” hardware. Iirc, the 12.5 ton alloy shackle will break at >50 tons. The off-road stuff is usually specified at 50% of breaking strength. And shock loading starts at 200% of the load.

The soft shackles are also a possibly. Not much cheaper but lighter. Someone went over how to tie your own here a year ago iirc.

I had planned on getting a pair of 1” 8.5ton Crosby shackles. Will these hold in use with a snatch block and a tree saver for a double line pull?
I was looking into a soft shackles, seemed lighter and noticed they float when in a bog. Dont know much about them so I was unsure with the cost being higher than the steel shackles.

[RustyPW]

You break a 1" 8.5T shackle. You're doing something.

[TankerZak]

You break a 1" 8.5T shackle. You're doing something.

CM makes some 6:1 8.5T shackles in 7/8 for like 30 bucks. Skookum makes a 16T 1inch with a 5:1. For lighter stuff I have some 9T Warn Epic 3/4 shackles but they don't publish saftey ratings.

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[Low_Sky]

so if I get a higher rated winch extension can I then use it for a double line pull?
I really only planned to use the snatch strap for others, wanted to have it on hand. Guess it would be wise though to spend the extra coin and get a rated pull for this truck.

I’ve got some barbaric ideas on how to pull the truck backwards. I won’t be totally by myself. Of course I’ve got passengers willing to go, they just don’t want to take their vehicles.

I’ll never be too far out of cell service or away from somewhere I couldn’t get to a house realitivley easy. I suppose once I finally get it out and get the bug I’d have to start looking into emergency situations.

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If you have a 12k lbs winch and rig it for a double line pull, everything past the snatch block should be rated for 24k lbs plus safety margin.

I suggest you buy a 1/2" synthetic winch rope extension instead of a strap. You can rig it through the snatch block for mechanical advantage, or to equalize a load across two anchors. Much more versatile than a strap.

[Low_Sky]

3/4" shackles for single line pulls
7/8" shackles for double line pulls and snatches
Anything bigger is a waste of space and weight
Crosby, Columbus McKinnon, VanBeest or Gunnebo