Ranchos are budget emulsion shocks with an expensive sticker.Rodeoflyer wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:47 pmIf Bilsteins are junk how do Ranchos rank? Less than junk?
Rear Shock Question
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True dat. I've owned four vehicles with stock spec'd ranchos and they were all done within 40k miles. My bilsteins were just starting to fade when I swapped them at 50k.
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Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
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You been running your factory shocks with Thuren springs then?
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With the Thuren front spring only. It's the correct length stock, as is the front track bar. You don't need the entire kit. Thuren rear springs and swar bar links, and Kings should be going on tomorrow or Tuesday.
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You have quite the nice upgrade system moving along, nice to see.
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This is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad
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Thanks, i was just thinking i shoulda done a build thread but i totally got here by "I'm not gonna do much just this one more thing..."
2016 Granite Crystal Metallic Power Wagon Laramie, graphics delete, debadged, Thuren front and rear coils, Thuren rear swaybar links, Thuren front and rear trackbars, Traxada rear 1 inch spacers, King 3.0 (Stage 4) front and 2.5 (Stage 3) rear shocks, Boogie front bump stops, Cooper STT Pro 37x13.50R17 on XD Machette 17x9 +18 wheels, Centramatics, 5.13 gears, DOR steering brace, Thuren truss, Thuren King Steering Damper, Synergy Steering Kit, Thuren PW front bumper, Thuren rear bumper, White Knuckle rock sliders, Dethloff skid plate, Dethloff rear sway bar spacers, Purple Cranium Half Spider front and rear diff guards, Airlift 5000 Ultimate airbags with Daystar cradles, Bakflip Revolver X2 tonneau, Factor55 Ultrahook with 100ft 7/16 A.R.E. Spidersilk synthetic winch line, Zroadz Grill with slim 20 inch light bar, DDM Tuning LEDs/HIDs, Rigid Side Shooter ditch lights, KC rock lights, Rigid fog lights, Baja Designs rear lights, Magnaflow 19200 modified with upgraded resonator and after axle dump, tinted front windows 35%.
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Yeah, I ran through Moab like that and it worked just fine but Top of the World did beat the shit out of me... lol. Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by undersprung and overdampened? What the experience is like?Rodeoflyer wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pmThis is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad
2016 Granite Crystal Metallic Power Wagon Laramie, graphics delete, debadged, Thuren front and rear coils, Thuren rear swaybar links, Thuren front and rear trackbars, Traxada rear 1 inch spacers, King 3.0 (Stage 4) front and 2.5 (Stage 3) rear shocks, Boogie front bump stops, Cooper STT Pro 37x13.50R17 on XD Machette 17x9 +18 wheels, Centramatics, 5.13 gears, DOR steering brace, Thuren truss, Thuren King Steering Damper, Synergy Steering Kit, Thuren PW front bumper, Thuren rear bumper, White Knuckle rock sliders, Dethloff skid plate, Dethloff rear sway bar spacers, Purple Cranium Half Spider front and rear diff guards, Airlift 5000 Ultimate airbags with Daystar cradles, Bakflip Revolver X2 tonneau, Factor55 Ultrahook with 100ft 7/16 A.R.E. Spidersilk synthetic winch line, Zroadz Grill with slim 20 inch light bar, DDM Tuning LEDs/HIDs, Rigid Side Shooter ditch lights, KC rock lights, Rigid fog lights, Baja Designs rear lights, Magnaflow 19200 modified with upgraded resonator and after axle dump, tinted front windows 35%.
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Long, soft springs and leaving chassis control heavily in the hands of the dampers is a better way of putting it. Not undersprung or overdamped necessarily haha. Exactly the direction you want to go for off-road use, of course you can go too far in any directionRodeoflyer wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pmThis is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad
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Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift
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It could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.DamageWagon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pmYeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift
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I made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...Low_Sky wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pmIt could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.DamageWagon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pmYeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift
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Hahaha ain’t it always the way, I bought a power wagon because it didn’t “need” anything lol.
In offroad racing springs are considered to be there more or less only to establish ride height. Chassis control and suspension character are all shock valving. Carli doesn’t use that tuning philosophy as far as I can tell, but Thuren sure seems too.
In offroad racing springs are considered to be there more or less only to establish ride height. Chassis control and suspension character are all shock valving. Carli doesn’t use that tuning philosophy as far as I can tell, but Thuren sure seems too.
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I literally ordered 37s a block down the street from the dealership on my drive home from picking up the truck.TankerZak wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pmI made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...Low_Sky wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pmIt could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.DamageWagon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm
Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift
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LOL, we literally only drove halfway down the campsite road. That was expensive.
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After coming off that shitty Top of The World trail and then seeing how much smoother your truck was even on just that campsite trail at speed it was a no brainer... and you finished that trail like 30-45 minutes before me and i wasn't going slow!
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We also got to the top a half hour before everyone else. Don Thuren has the Kings dialed in perfectly for my style of wheeling. They soak up all the annoying s//t on the trail.
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