Thuren 3.0 KING on 2018 Powerwagon!

[OffroadTreks]

It really is worth the investment. Totally different truck, WAY BETTER than stock. Stock was pretty good, but this is like Corvette vs Ferrari.

Yes, you gotta pay to play. Zero regrets. Really, very eager to get this thing to Moab and test it out crawling. There are some things I could crawl on here, but the local yahoos are too hush hush and everything is covered in snow and mud so... Probably not going to get that test till Moab.

But I did order with the additional 2-inches rear suspension travel.

You should just go for it.

[olyelr]

But I did order with the additional 2-inches rear suspension travel.

Whats that? Meaning the shocks have more travel than "normal" Kings? Or are the springs different too?

[Chromolykid]

But I did order with the additional 2-inches rear suspension travel.

Whats that? Meaning the shocks have more travel than "normal" Kings? Or are the springs different too?

Longer shock body for more travel. Keep in mind that Mikekey is an inch higher in the rear so the extended travel is a little more necessary in his case. The rear crossmember will definitely have to be lowered to clear the driveshaft if you go that route. I believe it was Reloaderguy who posted pics of the standard travel and it was more than enough for someone who won’t be jumping the truck, in my opinion.

[OffroadTreks]

Longer shock body for more travel. Keep in mind that Mikekey is an inch higher in the rear so the extended travel is a little more necessary in his case. The rear crossmember will definitely have to be lowered to clear the driveshaft if you go that route. I believe it was Reloaderguy who posted pics of the standard travel and it was more than enough for someone who won’t be jumping the truck, in my opinion.

CRAPOLA!!! We forgot all about that. I have to modify the rear cross member. You just saved my bacon.

[PWJouster]

i was debating the extra 2 inches but ultimately, decided against it. i just really wont need that extra droop.

amazeballs is what im going for so im going the right direction. i do expect it to be revolutionary.
Don sent out all his hard parts so now the wait begins!!!!!KING KING KING PLEASE BE GOOD TO ME.

[Chromolykid]

[OffroadTreks]

i was debating the extra 2 inches but ultimately, decided against it. i just really wont need that extra droop.

amazeballs is what im going for so im going the right direction. i do expect it to be revolutionary.
Don sent out all his hard parts so now the wait begins!!!!!KING KING KING PLEASE BE GOOD TO ME.

It took me exactly 6 weeks to get mine, from the day Don submitted the order to it arriving on my doorstep. Dunno about the 3.0, but they seem to be moving faster than they were before the new year. Some dudes I know spent close to 8 & 10 weeks respectively waiting for their shocks.

[cb1987]

did some searching but never found days and days of bent axles like i was told i would find. but my searching isnt done yet. found just a few stories so far but it seemed like most of them were related to the front axles in '13 and older trucks. hmm

[Rodeoflyer]

What valving did you get Mikekey? I'm finding that valving is everything no matter if you have 2'' or 5'' shocks. I also ordered the piggyback rears.

At stage 5 front mine have SUPER fast rebound. So fast it feels like it's undulating down the highway. But when I hit a huge bump at 70mph across rough ground it just sucks it up. Jumping a truck and not destroying is different than running across rough ground fast.

[Reloaderguy]

But I did order with the additional 2-inches rear suspension travel.

Whats that? Meaning the shocks have more travel than "normal" Kings? Or are the springs different too?

Longer shock body for more travel. Keep in mind that Mikekey is an inch higher in the rear so the extended travel is a little more necessary in his case. The rear crossmember will definitely have to be lowered to clear the driveshaft if you go that route. I believe it was Reloaderguy who posted pics of the standard travel and it was more than enough for someone who won’t be jumping the truck, in my opinion.

You have to lower the skid plate crossmember about 1.5". The drive shaft will absolutely hit it if you droop the suspension. Considering how far forward the crossmember is, I think you'd be several inches less than full droop when contact is made. I had the crossmember notched and rewelded so I could raise the crossmember back up.

[DamageWagon]

Whats that? Meaning the shocks have more travel than "normal" Kings? Or are the springs different too?

Longer shock body for more travel. Keep in mind that Mikekey is an inch higher in the rear so the extended travel is a little more necessary in his case. The rear crossmember will definitely have to be lowered to clear the driveshaft if you go that route. I believe it was Reloaderguy who posted pics of the standard travel and it was more than enough for someone who won’t be jumping the truck, in my opinion.

You have to lower the skid plate crossmember about 1.5". The drive shaft will absolutely hit it if you droop the suspension. Considering how far forward the crossmember is, I think you'd be several inches less than full droop when contact is made. I had the crossmember notched and rewelded so I could raise the crossmember back up.

Unless the geometry turns out real funky on the OE crossmember I’ll be replicating it with a fabricated bolt-in crossmember for dudes who want the longer travel in the rear.

[Reloaderguy]

Longer shock body for more travel. Keep in mind that Mikekey is an inch higher in the rear so the extended travel is a little more necessary in his case. The rear crossmember will definitely have to be lowered to clear the driveshaft if you go that route. I believe it was Reloaderguy who posted pics of the standard travel and it was more than enough for someone who won’t be jumping the truck, in my opinion.

You have to lower the skid plate crossmember about 1.5". The drive shaft will absolutely hit it if you droop the suspension. Considering how far forward the crossmember is, I think you'd be several inches less than full droop when contact is made. I had the crossmember notched and rewelded so I could raise the crossmember back up.

Unless the geometry turns out real funky on the OE crossmember I’ll be replicating it with a fabricated bolt-in crossmember for dudes who want the longer travel in the rear.

The crossmember's entire purpose is to hold the gas tank and engine skid. I'm not sure I see much need for a fabricated crossmember. Any clearance you gain in the cross member is lost retaining the skid plates. The most clearance you'll lose is clearing the drive shaft and the OE is fairly low profile to begin with.

[adeluca73]

But I did order with the additional 2-inches rear suspension travel

... Mikekey is an inch higher...

[adeluca73]

I will say this now that I have the King 2.5's installed, the coils and front and rear track bars, the truck handles on ramps like a totally different vehicle. Really, I've just been blown away by this whole setup. It's fucking amazeballs.

Stop it. Stop it right now.

MF—shouldn’t have logged on, I was off the sauce for a while now, in the 12th step, now I’m off the wagon again, ordering my long awaited Theuren suspension tomorrow, mf’rs.

[OffroadTreks]

You need to catch up slacker.

[adeluca73]

You need to catch up slacker.

I know...been on a gun making bender the past 6+ months, plus i’ve been on a Hellcat mod kick too. Time for some more PW

[adeluca73]

I will say this now that I have the King 2.5's installed, the coils and front and rear track bars, the truck handles on ramps like a totally different vehicle. Really, I've just been blown away by this whole setup. It's fucking amazeballs.

How are "amazeballs", anything like incredicok? Anyway, congrats on the new suspension...did you go with Don's rear coils or keep the stock PW coils, I'm really on the fence about the rear coils. I see Don's admonition about his coils turning the rear end into a 1500RAM, but I read your exchange with TankerZak about the true world differences in sag under load is close to only 1". I'm in the order process right now, but still trying to decide if I want to run my stock rear coils or not.

[OffroadTreks]

did you go with Don's rear coils or keep the stock PW coils, I'm really on the fence about the rear coils. I see Don's admonition about his coils turning the rear end into a 1500RAM, but I read your exchange with TankerZak about the true world differences in sag under load is close to only 1". I'm in the order process right now, but still trying to decide if I want to run my stock rear coils or not.

Go see my build thread, I believe I have put that "question" completely to rest. I was hanging out with TankerZak and DamageWagon when we installed my coils.

[PWJouster]

PW is at dodge, installing a whole gang of goodies. including 5 new cab lights by way of an rtt or rrt? Factory recall of some sort, and a new rambox hinge.

DOR steering brace
Purple Cranium Dif covers in a hammered grey
boogiesF&R
trackbarsF&R
springsF&R
King Stab
KING KONG 3.0F &2.5R

hopefully i can pick up the truck tonight! this jk Loaner is nothing like my old JKUR!
$1250 for everything including alignment. and ive had the jeep since monday.

i dont trust any single tech besides the too expensive ones...i thought why not let dodge dealer F*** it up if it must be, i know they will order me what they destroy. handed over the thuren spec pages and alignment info...lets see what we get!

[OffroadTreks]

LOL $1250 to bolt on a bunch of stuff that should of taken a Saturday afternoon. Wow.

[Low_Sky]

LOL $1250 to bolt on a bunch of stuff that should of taken a Saturday afternoon. Wow.

Hey man, somebody has to stimulate the economy. PWJouster is doing is best.

[Reloaderguy]

I'm pretty sour on Ram dealers doing customer pay work. I'd buy $1250 worth of tools first.

[Low_Sky]

I'm pretty sour on Ram dealers doing customer pay work. I'd buy $1250 worth of tools first.

I don't disagree, and the economy still gets stimulated.

[OffroadTreks]

I love stimulating the economy by taking stuff to the most incompetent people and being rapped in my asshole for the work. Makes me proud to be Murican.

[PWJouster]

truth is i dont disagree.

but now,

i can hold them liable for issues, which i dont expect.

honestly ive been boned by a few aftermarket garages in my area with some previous builds... even a jeep specialist, couldnt torque a control arm jam nut over finger tight.anyway, i got quotes and this dealer beat those prices.

i looked for friends with the tools and shop and couldnt find them.

i dont have the stands or jacks, or competence/time to really get it done all alone. wish i did, i did a jeep but not the powerwagon. i even offered every shop i called, to pay 100% of the price and let me work alongside.

the tech who is doing it was more competent then others, and happens to be the only guy they say, is allowed to do suspensions. the fully outfitted jeep in his bay made me feel nice.

ill keep everyone posted.