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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by olyelr » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:43 am

Nts, your just mad cause they dont make 3rd gen and cummins parts :lol:
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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by nts007 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 am

olyelr wrote:Nts, your just mad cause they dont make 3rd gen and cummins parts :lol:
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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by Reloaderguy » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:00 am

zigsrig wrote:While we can argue all night and day about the AEV setup on a power wagon, I don't think we can really compare their business model (and successes) to many other off-road suspension and accessory companies.

Not many have been in the market place 20 years, established a vast dealership network, been an integral part of a major vehicle manufactures product lineup, had their parts sold (with factory warranties) at dealerships all over the world and won a few prestigious automotive design awards.

Im pretty sure with the JL coming out soon, they will have (yet another) major cash stream to continue to grow their business... One that should keep this afloat for a bit longer than some may hope ;)

From just a pure business standpoint, id say they are doing damn fine (speaking from a self employed business owners perspective of corse).
Teraflex has been around longer and more involved in FCA vehicles. AEV barely has a presence in dealerships. You randomly see Prospectors, Jeep accessories are far more prevalent and it is not normally AEV in dealerships. AEV was the shop that stretched Jeeps, had some cool Ferrari looking wheels, high fender kits, and later engine swaps. All boutique.

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Post by Pit Slave » Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:35 pm

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zigsrig wrote:While we can argue all night and day about the AEV setup on a power wagon, I don't think we can really compare their business model (and successes) to many other off-road suspension and accessory companies.

Not many have been in the market place 20 years, established a vast dealership network, been an integral part of a major vehicle manufactures product lineup, had their parts sold (with factory warranties) at dealerships all over the world and won a few prestigious automotive design awards.

Im pretty sure with the JL coming out soon, they will have (yet another) major cash stream to continue to grow their business... One that should keep this afloat for a bit longer than some may hope ;)

From just a pure business standpoint, id say they are doing damn fine (speaking from a self employed business owners perspective of corse).
Teraflex has been around longer and more involved in FCA vehicles. AEV barely has a presence in dealerships. You randomly see Prospectors, Jeep accessories are far more prevalent and it is not normally AEV in dealerships. AEV was the shop that stretched Jeeps, had some cool Ferrari looking wheels, high fender kits, and later engine swaps. All boutique.
Also, little do people know Sage Carli was involved with Ram's decision to make the switch to radius arms. It was ram that wanted to look into what Carli had at the time, the then, new radius arms from Carli.

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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by whitey » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:40 pm

I'll be honest that I haven't read all of your comments But I've got to say this about the whole AEV situation. I've had my power wagon for almost 12 years and I always upgrade to more functional parts and I have always wheeled it from about day 6. Every upgrade has offroad in mind. When I first heard about AEV I didn't catch anything about dealing with the power wagon / dodge weaknesses so I spoke up at that time. By the time I heard of AEV I was already on my 5th steering system. Do not expect to go offroad on 40"s, locked front and on rocks with stock steering. I'm pretty sure the dodge engineers that put our steering systems into place where using some of the new math. Offroad and locked on 37"s was just too hard on my first 4 steering set ups. I used to twist sector shafts right off of the steering boxes till I started hydro assist then the problem spots just moved to other parts

As for the drivetrain around year 9 I had to have my front axle shafts replaced with some mating parts and transfer case rebuilt after stretched chain. Unit bearings at front hubs were swapped about every 3rd year till dynatrac free spin kit. This was all likely due to running 37"s and offroading often. Many other drivetrain parts were replaced too but where oh shit moments. If I were to go to 40"s I would get the diff gears to 5.13 and get mild trusses on top of axles.

With all of this in mind, If I ever get really serious about going big then I'll get a pair of axletech 4000 or larger axles and shoot for 54". AEV won't have anything to do with the truck, it'll be East Coast Gear supply to do the work and Boyce equipment for axles.

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Post by laramieskibum » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:26 am

Pit Slave wrote:Ok, I have one more thing to add or should I say ask... Out of all the defense talk about AEV, not one person who speaks highly of them has explained why the thread deletion?

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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by OffroadTreks » Sat Jul 22, 2017 10:53 am

Nice cover story. My thread was deleted prior to the changeover. The closed rack thread was much older. More like they pruned shit they don't want there. Just admit that and stop being sly. Some of us work on the web daily. We're not stupid to this BS. It was lost and unrecoverable. Um ok, guess who ever did that is a dumbass that deletes databases? Give me a break. :roll:
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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by olyelr » Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:40 pm

For some reason, the so called lost threads were the ones that were not favorable to them.
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Post by OffroadTreks » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:20 pm

olyelr wrote:For some reason, the so called lost threads were the ones that were not favorable to them.
You're just a hater.
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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by olyelr » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:43 pm

MikeKey wrote:
olyelr wrote:For some reason, the so called lost threads were the ones that were not favorable to them.
You're just a hater.

No way jose, my aev puck lift is in the mail. And im using it with my pw coils cause I'm a REBEL.
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Post by Reloaderguy » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:56 pm

I'd ban you if I were them.

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Post by RAM4ROKS » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:08 pm

I think the AEV setup has its place. It's very good for a person who wants a warranteed lifted truck with big tires that'l do more than 99% of new truck buyers will have the stomach for offroad. I am very jealous of the ability to inexpensively (comparatively) push the front axle forward on the '14+ Wagons, I wish I could push mine forward on my '12. The AEV flares are a beautiful piece of work! The Procal (assuming it's like the one for the JK) is a great little gadget. Would I run AEV's suspension on my Wagon if I had a '14+??? Likely a mix of AEV and Carli like the DPP Howitzer simply because I'd want 40s.

I 100% agree with Whitey- 40s for use offroad require a LOT more supporting mods than the AEV Prospector XL comes with. I don't run 40s on my '12 yet for that very reason. To run my Wagon on 40s in the manner that I would run it were it on 40s, I would need a laundry list of mods to the tune of around $10k+. (RCVs, No Spins, Truss, 11.5 swap to allow regear to 5.13 (not needed on a '14+ since they already have an 11.5), Hydro assist (the one thing the Prospector XL actually does have), upgraded balljoints, upgraded steering gear, long arms (admittedly, a '14+ has the advantage there), etc)

I'll tell you what I would like to see: a 3" Wagon specific lift system (3" actual lift over a Wagon height!) with the focus being on maximum ground clearance and maximum flex with the shock tuning biased toward low speed crawling, long arms designed to withstand being dragged on rocks, bracketry designed to be smooth without snags to catch when dragging belly, a belly pan, and a 1-1.5" forward push for the front axle. This would be my ideal suspension setup! (of course, I'd want it for '13 and earlier (so, I'm just dreaming, LOL!))

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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by Reloaderguy » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:19 am

I was under the impression AEV used the OE isolators/joints.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/4wd-s ... 500-a.html

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Post by jpbrazill » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:39 am

RAM4ROKS wrote:I think the AEV setup has its place. It's very good for a person who wants a warranteed lifted truck with big tires that'l do more than 99% of new truck buyers will have the stomach for offroad. I am very jealous of the ability to inexpensively (comparatively) push the front axle forward on the '14+ Wagons, I wish I could push mine forward on my '12. The AEV flares are a beautiful piece of work! The Procal (assuming it's like the one for the JK) is a great little gadget. Would I run AEV's suspension on my Wagon if I had a '14+??? Likely a mix of AEV and Carli like the DPP Howitzer simply because I'd want 40s.

I 100% agree with Whitey- 40s for use offroad require a LOT more supporting mods than the AEV Prospector XL comes with. I don't run 40s on my '12 yet for that very reason. To run my Wagon on 40s in the manner that I would run it were it on 40s, I would need a laundry list of mods to the tune of around $10k+. (RCVs, No Spins, Truss, 11.5 swap to allow regear to 5.13 (not needed on a '14+ since they already have an 11.5), Hydro assist (the one thing the Prospector XL actually does have), upgraded balljoints, upgraded steering gear, long arms (admittedly, a '14+ has the advantage there), etc)

I'll tell you what I would like to see: a 3" Wagon specific lift system (3" actual lift over a Wagon height!) with the focus being on maximum ground clearance and maximum flex with the shock tuning biased toward low speed crawling, long arms designed to withstand being dragged on rocks, bracketry designed to be smooth without snags to catch when dragging belly, a belly pan, and a 1-1.5" forward push for the front axle. This would be my ideal suspension setup! (of course, I'd want it for '13 and earlier (so, I'm just dreaming, LOL!))
I couldn't agree more. This would be my ideal setup as well....except I would want it for a 14+ configuration. Give me stock feel with 3" taller ride height and external res. shocks.
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Post by DamageWagon » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:12 pm

All of that is achievable. It requires coilovers. Chop off all factory suspension, including coil buckets and Trackbar mount, and fab up shock hoops and a new Trackbar mount with longer arms. Pretty sure you need to stick with a Trackbar setup, there's not enough room underneath to do a triangulated 4-link without losing a lot of uptravel.

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Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:31 pm

Interesting discussion about the lifts here:https://forum.aev-conversions.com/forum ... ith-3-lift

Backed up in case AEV nukes thread here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170815233 ... ith-3-lift
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Post by 04Ram2500Hemi » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:01 pm

AEV just announced a Chevy ZR2 Concept along with a few other Ram goodies. I'm surprised by the ZR2 setup. I thought they would stay committed to Ram and Jeep.
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Post by TwinStick » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:45 pm

Yeah, not for nothing, but the hot ticket IMHO for a rear bumper would be to integrate the hitch & pick up a few more inches of clearance, cut the rear quarters & fender flare & have the bumper wrap around to protect the lower rear of bed. :rockon:

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Post by FordyceCreekTrail » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:14 pm

Got to admit that Colorado AEV looks sharp
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Post by Rodeoflyer » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:19 pm

Typical AEV. Looks awesome, corners cut everywhere else. Props for making a nodular iron rear diff cover that works and front that was a waste of money due to sorry (but it looks awesome!) r&d.

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Post by TwinStick » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:55 pm

Yes, it certainly does look sharp. 35" tires on an IFS front end of something that is less than even a 1/2 ton makes me wonder about parts longevity though. I mean, ours came stock with 33's on a 3/4-1 ton platform & our ball joints & tie rod ends sucked, so I gotta think that 35's on a 1/4 ton platform rates as a :wtf: were they thinking moment ! But i could be wrong ? :lol:

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Re: Why has AEV turned to such shit?

Post by Reloaderguy » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:33 am

Same old uninspired crap designed to look good but not actually increase performance. SSDD

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This is the bullshit Social Media way :doh:

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Post by olyelr » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:35 pm

I think the point of the tow hooks being where they are is for them to actually act as a skid, instead of using the bumper so much. I dono. Cant imagine why the hell else they would do that.

I love the look of their front bumper... but not the rear bumper. Those tubes just look too out of pace for me.
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Post by MSCH2112 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:30 pm

the AEV customers don't seem very happy with the RAM rear bumper design.

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