Brakes ......

Stuff that doesn't pertain to PWs and general chit-chat
User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:48 pm

Chamfers reduce stress risers and help reduce heat concentration.
Chamfers = bueno
Radius = mucho bueno


Sent from my safe space

User avatar
OffroadTreks
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2409
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:23 am
Model Year: 2015
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by OffroadTreks » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:47 pm

Did anyone ever find 4th gen braided brake lines?

Planning my brake upgrade before Moab.
2015 Power Wagon Laramie - "ROCKLANDER"
-------
[Build Thread] [Instagram] [Youtube]
------
Full-Size Off-Road Events & Overland Adventures

User avatar
Pit Slave
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 1486
Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 11:12 am
Location: Sandy, Utah.. Moab, Jersey, Space Station, Baja.....

Re: Brakes ......

Post by Pit Slave » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:07 pm

MikeKey wrote:Did anyone ever find 4th gen braided brake lines?

Planning my brake upgrade before Moab.
CJC OFFROAD has them. Give them a call. Tell them pit slave sent you

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
Nothing's more dead than a horse in a glue bottle.Image

There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation.
One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
John Adams - 1826


I guess you could say I'm a bit off center.....:D

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:21 pm

MikeKey wrote:Did anyone ever find 4th gen braided brake lines?

Planning my brake upgrade before Moab.

There is no need to do upgrades to 4th Gens or 5th Gens. They are superior in every way. I read that somewhere. :lol:

User avatar
bstefanic
500_Posts
500_Posts
Posts: 847
Joined: Tue May 29, 2012 1:42 pm
Model Year: 2006
Location: Chesapeake, VA

Re: Brakes ......

Post by bstefanic » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:25 pm

TwinStick wrote:
MikeKey wrote:Did anyone ever find 4th gen braided brake lines?

Planning my brake upgrade before Moab.

There is no need to do upgrades to 4th Gens or 5th Gens. They are superior in every way. I read that somewhere. Image
Just give George over at 8lugtruckgear a shout...he has carli braided lines. I just picked up a set
Old '06 PW (Sold)- BDS Long Arm Kit, 37" Interco M16's, ATX Cornice Wheels, DT Pro Fab steering box brace, Dynatrac Ball Joints, SY Eliminated Transfer Case, Custom Tom Wood's DS, Dynatrac Free Spin Hubs

'13 Cummins - 4.56s, front ARB locker, Thuren Alien Arms, Stage 6 king 3.0's, LT leafs, 40"s on Trail Ready's

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:25 pm

6" Carli SS brakelines on the way. CJC off-road

Inspection due at the end of the month, I will have it done then.

Right now: Step on the brakes & it stops fine, but the pedal goes down more than it used to & more than i like. Let up & step on the pedal again & it is right where it is supposed to be & has more power. He said they bled all the lines like 6 times & swears that there is no air in the lines. ?????????? Any ideas on what would cause this ????

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:54 pm

Twin that's how mine felt/feel. They felt like they go down more than they did with the old pads. I didn't like the feeling. I did the same thing, bled both sides 8 times with test drives inbetween, even full day drives. It's not air in the lines. It's either the vacuum booster not giving the vacuum you need (that's why the second pump feels better) or something I'm not thinking of. They feel a LOT better when you get them warm. Cold, they feel sketchy. If you have a longer, harder stop you can feel them grab more during a single stop.


Sent from my safe space

User avatar
OffroadTreks
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2409
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:23 am
Model Year: 2015
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by OffroadTreks » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:49 pm

Sigh. I hate calling places. It's 2017. A phone call is an inconvenience. :mrgreen:
2015 Power Wagon Laramie - "ROCKLANDER"
-------
[Build Thread] [Instagram] [Youtube]
------
Full-Size Off-Road Events & Overland Adventures

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:56 pm

And exactly who am I supposed to call that will diagnose it over the phone ? Especially in NY ?

"Bring it in & we will look at it for $100 an hour." is the response around here.

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:01 pm

The pads just don't feel like "real truck" brakes if you will. Mine were the same, it felt like a downgrade at the time. I think they break in a little more, but still aren't what I wanted. I'm spending the money on EBC's next time.


Sent from my safe space

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:09 pm

Mine stop way better than stock. Plenty happy with the stopping power.

Colibri
1000_Posts
1000_Posts
Posts: 1713
Joined: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:44 pm
Model Year: 2009

Re: Brakes ......

Post by Colibri » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:30 pm

Not super likely, but you may have gotten an air pocket/bubble in the abs unit. That can give a spongy pedal that won't go away no matter how much you bleed the calipers.
Central Texas and Houston area
2009 5.7 auto quadcab
Carli 3” coils deaver leafs 3” kings with 4 tube bypass rear and fr/rr hydro bumps
Howe steering pump and gear with hydraulic ram assist
Custom tube bumpers and white knuckle sliders
Creative fab trussed axle. rem polished and cryoed 5.13 gears with arb lockers fr/rr
Sharadon stage 2 545rfe with 3000 stall edge converter
Lots of other stuff lol

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:52 pm

Does that mean we need to do an ABS delete Image :rolling: :excited:


Sent from my safe space

User avatar
nts007
2000_Posts
2000_Posts
Posts: 2284
Joined: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:01 pm
Model Year: 2008
Location: Sask, Canada, Earth

Re: Brakes ......

Post by nts007 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:15 pm

...............yes............
08 ctd--mini max--thuren 3" coils and LT Leaves--4.56 gears and lockers in pw axles--some lights--afe intake system--bd super b turbo--Banks w/m Injection--Dynatrac Balljoints--king 2.5"s--37" Hankook Dynapro MT--DOR Long arms--Custom emf track bar--Manual T-case swap--Full PW Under armor--PSC Hydro Assist and so much more

User avatar
Pit Slave
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 1486
Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 11:12 am
Location: Sandy, Utah.. Moab, Jersey, Space Station, Baja.....

Re: Brakes ......

Post by Pit Slave » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:10 pm

Get your brake lines changed first, then see what you have. It sounds like your rubber lines are starting to stretch/ flex. 6" lines are going to be too long if you are running stock height. The 3" set I'm running are just a little bit longer then what I'd like but aren't hazardously too long. If I went with the 6", I would have had to reroute the lines to take up all the slack or replace them with a 3" to keep a safe amount of slack.

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk
Nothing's more dead than a horse in a glue bottle.Image

There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation.
One is by the sword. The other is by debt.
John Adams - 1826


I guess you could say I'm a bit off center.....:D

User avatar
OffroadTreks
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 2409
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:23 am
Model Year: 2015
Location: USA
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:33 am

So why are guys buying 6 inch lines if 3 inches is all they need?
2015 Power Wagon Laramie - "ROCKLANDER"
-------
[Build Thread] [Instagram] [Youtube]
------
Full-Size Off-Road Events & Overland Adventures

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:02 pm

In case I decide to lift my truck down the road, I won't have to pay twice. 3" of extra line is not a big deal to me, just a couple extra zip ties.

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:07 pm

If you decide to go from 3" to 6", it's like a $12,000 investment lol. Driveshaft, brake lines, spacers and drop brackets, tube bumper, rear links, bed cage, cab cage, LED light bars... 6" lift is expensive. Gotta do it all at once, too


Sent from my safe space

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:12 pm

Even if I went 4", the 3" brake lines would need to be replaced. For a $5 difference in price, the 6" was the way to go for me.

Don't forget, a 6" lift for a Ram 2500 is a 4" lift for our Power Wagons. Unless it is a Power Wagon specific lift. PW's are 1.5"-2" taller than a reg 2500.

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:42 pm

Putting Thuren 3" springs on gave me a 4" lift.

Don't forget, once you hit 6" of lift you gotta do the roll cage, link the rear and have front bro-lights. Otherwise bad stuff will happen


Sent from my safe space

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:51 pm

Those are diesel springs, thats why.

Those are the same ones I plan on using if I lift my truck at all. Wait a minute---I see there are now 2" springs avail, that will give me a 1" lift. Says they are stiff, so a good HD front bumper would help them ride better. :rockon: I really only want an inch or 2 but I am NOT a fan of multi rate springs with some coils closer together than others. My experience talking to the 4-5 people I have seen with them on: after a year or 2, the close together coils end up touching each other or stacked or what ever you want to call it, basically they are dead, if coils are touching.
Last edited by TwinStick on Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
olyelr
2000_Posts
2000_Posts
Posts: 3658
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:00 pm
Model Year: 2016
Location: Kewadin, MI

Re: Brakes ......

Post by olyelr » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:59 pm

TwinStick wrote:Those are diesel springs, thats why.

He doesnt make em.

And by the way, after the 6" lift you have to be sure to have the mirrors in tow position at all times.
2016 Ram Power Wagon Laramie - Granite Crystal Metallic - Ramboxes - 35” AT3W - TazerRAM

:patriot:

User avatar
DamageWagon
Vendor
Vendor
Posts: 2303
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 am
Model Year: 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Brakes ......

Post by DamageWagon » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:01 pm

TwinStick wrote:Those are diesel springs, thats why.
Thuren only makes diesel springs. Carli makes gas springs but they ride like crap on 4th gens I've heard.

Olyelr, I believe there is another mirror option there. It's either tow position, or you can have both mirrors ripped off by brush strokes. But both mirrors must be identical.


Sent from my safe space

TwinStick

Re: Brakes ......

Post by TwinStick » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:05 pm

olyelr wrote:
TwinStick wrote:Those are diesel springs, thats why.

He doesnt make em.

Yup, I know.

And by the way, after the 6" lift you have to be sure to have the mirrors in tow position at all times.[/quote]

:lol: "Big truckin' it" ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04GlKHG9T_E :lol:

User avatar
nts007
2000_Posts
2000_Posts
Posts: 2284
Joined: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:01 pm
Model Year: 2008
Location: Sask, Canada, Earth

Re: Brakes ......

Post by nts007 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:11 pm

Seen it. Shared it
Attachments
image.png
image.png
08 ctd--mini max--thuren 3" coils and LT Leaves--4.56 gears and lockers in pw axles--some lights--afe intake system--bd super b turbo--Banks w/m Injection--Dynatrac Balljoints--king 2.5"s--37" Hankook Dynapro MT--DOR Long arms--Custom emf track bar--Manual T-case swap--Full PW Under armor--PSC Hydro Assist and so much more

Post Reply