100% cure for death wobble

[ACL123]

Must use a OEM steering stabilizer

[ACL123]

Although I figured this out about 10 years ago... I figured I would share. Like many of you I was throwing parts at the problem. Finally broke down and took it to the dealership. The mechanic came back after 10 mins and said it was the steering stabilizer. I proceeded to argue with him that I just put a brand new bilstein stabilizer on. He was very adamant that it was the stabilizer. So I said ok. Sure enough it worked. 10 years later and not a whiff of death wobble.

[DamageWagon]

Death wobble is developed from the axle being unable to correct tire direction, or from over correction. Death wobble comes from an issue with alignment-affecting components. Tie rod, ball joints, axle straightness, wheel bearings, tires, control arm bushings, and alignment angles.

The steering damper aids alignment components by preventing over correction and by lessening external inputs. The OEM damper is surprisingly good and I only recommend the OEM damper or the Thuren tunes King damper.

The damper can stop death wobble from happening, but the damper itself is not the cure. Neither is caster alone as I hear frequently said. Every alignment components plays a part, and any one of these listed parts can cause death wobble if worn out or not set correctly.

[olyelr]

I have always been a believer that a steering damper does have its purpose, but curing death wobble is not one of them...but they can often mask it, however.

Well, I guess if they can mask/stop it, then its a win win regardless LOL.

[DamageWagon]

My OEM damper with a bent shaft, puking oil, with two massive dents in it, kept DW away while I drove 60 miles to a buddy to press in new ball joints. Truck had tires coming off the ground going 40 on the road from DW without the damper.

[RustyPW]

Although I figured this out about 10 years ago... I figured I would share. Like many of you I was throwing parts at the problem. Finally broke down and took it to the dealership. The mechanic came back after 10 mins and said it was the steering stabilizer. I proceeded to argue with him that I just put a brand new bilstein stabilizer on. He was very adamant that it was the stabilizer. So I said ok. Sure enough it worked. 10 years later and not a whiff of death wobble.

I had the same issues years ago. Throw a ton of money at it. Pin pointed it to the steering stabilizer. Had a discussion about it on here. Most guys here didn't want to hear about the stabilizer. Said it was something else. Pissed me off to no end.

[olyelr]

Although I figured this out about 10 years ago... I figured I would share. Like many of you I was throwing parts at the problem. Finally broke down and took it to the dealership. The mechanic came back after 10 mins and said it was the steering stabilizer. I proceeded to argue with him that I just put a brand new bilstein stabilizer on. He was very adamant that it was the stabilizer. So I said ok. Sure enough it worked. 10 years later and not a whiff of death wobble.

I had the same issues years ago. Throw a ton of money at it. Pin pointed it to the steering stabilizer. Had a discussion about it on here. Most guys here didn't want to hear about the stabilizer. Said it was something else. Pissed me off to no end.

Are you over it yet?

[RustyPW]

Although I figured this out about 10 years ago... I figured I would share. Like many of you I was throwing parts at the problem. Finally broke down and took it to the dealership. The mechanic came back after 10 mins and said it was the steering stabilizer. I proceeded to argue with him that I just put a brand new bilstein stabilizer on. He was very adamant that it was the stabilizer. So I said ok. Sure enough it worked. 10 years later and not a whiff of death wobble.

I had the same issues years ago. Throw a ton of money at it. Pin pointed it to the steering stabilizer. Had a discussion about it on here. Most guys here didn't want to hear about the stabilizer. Said it was something else. Pissed me off to no end.

Are you over it yet?

[OffroadTreks]

Although I figured this out about 10 years ago... I figured I would share. Like many of you I was throwing parts at the problem. Finally broke down and took it to the dealership. The mechanic came back after 10 mins and said it was the steering stabilizer. I proceeded to argue with him that I just put a brand new bilstein stabilizer on. He was very adamant that it was the stabilizer. So I said ok. Sure enough it worked. 10 years later and not a whiff of death wobble.

I had the same issues years ago. Throw a ton of money at it. Pin pointed it to the steering stabilizer. Had a discussion about it on here. Most guys here didn't want to hear about the stabilizer. Said it was something else. Pissed me off to no end.

ALL THE STABILIZERS!!!!

STABILIZE ALL THE THINGS!!!

[KevinABQ]

Thuren's note on this is is interesting "There are a lot of trusted brands out there producing steering dampers, but they are often very lacking, in actual effectiveness."

[DamageWagon]

The most important jobs of a steering stabilizer are to damp the smallest initial movements, and to output a lot of force at a very low shaft speed to resist big jerks to the steering. Emulsion shocks like almost every Rancho, Bilstein, Fox, etc. do poor jobs of these because the mixed nitrogen in the oil can flow easily through the valves. There’s a lot to be said for a high quality IFP shock in that job.

[Reloaderguy]

There's a better way.

[flattire]

What are we looking at here?

[RustyPW]

The most important jobs of a steering stabilizer are to damp the smallest initial movements, and to output a lot of force at a very low shaft speed to resist big jerks to the steering. Emulsion shocks like almost every Rancho, Bilstein, Fox, etc. do poor jobs of these because the mixed nitrogen in the oil can flow easily through the valves. There’s a lot to be said for a high quality IFP shock in that job.

I know for a fact that Rancho takes a regular shock and lays it on it's side to use as a stabilizer. Because of this, the valve is not fully in the fluid. This creates dead spots in the travel. Had a nice long ass chewing session with them a few years back.

[olyelr]

What are we looking at here?

Reloaders is hydro assist.

[olyelr]

The most important jobs of a steering stabilizer are to damp the smallest initial movements, and to output a lot of force at a very low shaft speed to resist big jerks to the steering. Emulsion shocks like almost every Rancho, Bilstein, Fox, etc. do poor jobs of these because the mixed nitrogen in the oil can flow easily through the valves. There’s a lot to be said for a high quality IFP shock in that job.

I know for a fact that Rancho takes a regular shock and lays it on it's side to use as a stabilizer. Because of this, the valve is not fully in the fluid. This creates dead spots in the travel. Had a nice long ass chewing session with them a few years back.

Well you done told them!

[RustyPW]

The most important jobs of a steering stabilizer are to damp the smallest initial movements, and to output a lot of force at a very low shaft speed to resist big jerks to the steering. Emulsion shocks like almost every Rancho, Bilstein, Fox, etc. do poor jobs of these because the mixed nitrogen in the oil can flow easily through the valves. There’s a lot to be said for a high quality IFP shock in that job.

I know for a fact that Rancho takes a regular shock and lays it on it's side to use as a stabilizer. Because of this, the valve is not fully in the fluid. This creates dead spots in the travel. Had a nice long ass chewing session with them a few years back.

Well you done told them!

Felt like TwinSticks on the phone.

[olyelr]

Bahahahahahahaha

[MoparFanatic21]

There's a better way.

I would like to see better pics of that hydro assist

[Bill2014]

Twinstick did set the standard for giving vendors feedback - but I suspect he was most effective in person.
Ah - the ole days...

[OffroadTreks]

There's a better way.

I would like to see better pics of that hydro assist

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[Reloaderguy]

Who engineered that tie rod mount for the Synergy bar?

[DamageWagon]

Who engineered that tie rod mount for the Synergy bar?

It is from PSC

[RustyPW]

Twinstick did set the standard for giving vendors feedback - but I suspect he was most effective in person.
Ah - the ole days...

Kind of miss that saw off runt. He was always good for a good rant. Wonder how he is doing with his cheby?

[Reloaderguy]

Who engineered that tie rod mount for the Synergy bar?

It is from PSC

Is that it's intended use? I don't see it surviving Moab on the end of a hydraulic ram.