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Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:11 pm

Hey guys, a few of you(and I do mean few, possible only one or two) may know what my very current status is with what's been going on. I hate to say "coming soon!" because that's not my style. However, I feel I should do a short update about one of the particular products that I am working on. I will call the smartbar bypass. This will most likely come in a few styles being mainly; 1, a locker bypass in plug-n-play configuration; 2, a replacement board for your smartbar that will require removal of the plug from the circuit board(advanced skills recommend for the removal and soldering/reflow of circuit board); 3, custom control box to activate a solenoid valve to actuate an air locker(this can be any or all combinations of air and/or electric locker)

This will be built using maintenance free components to help guarantee better, reliable operation ie. no relays or moving parts. Granted relays are still reliable however, they too will burn out after some time and sooner than later for the ones with defects or cheaply made units. For the custom style, it will allow expandable options for future changes and modifications. Think of it as a "grows up with your build" option. An example is you are planning to go air but currently have electric. It will work with your indicator lights to actually tell you when you engage, but, won't stop the rest of the system due to drive line delay( who cares if your front locks before the rear does, aka no waiting in line).

More details of the entire system and it's operation to come later. Stay tuned, and post your thoughts and questions and I'll try to answer as soon as I can.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby w2dodge » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:57 am

sounds awesome chris.......locker by pass,using factory controls..?..any switches and such..?..im in .. :rockon: :popcorn:
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:22 pm

No additional switches required, however, one version of the controller box can be used in non - Power Wagon vehicle such as a standard 2500.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby akmopowr » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:00 pm

"1, a locker bypass in plug-n-play configuration" - I know its my first post but count me in for this!
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Re: Newer development...

Postby TwinStick » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:31 am

What Generations will it work with ? I ask because I have an "old" 3rd Gen PW-2008.

And, if the new ZR2 does not make it to market or cost $50k, then I might as well get another Power Wagon. I Don't even know what Gen they are on now. I havn't been keeping up too well. :lol:
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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:44 pm

It should work fine with anything.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby Low_Sky » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:33 pm

Godspeed, Pit Slave! I know that a few have undertaken endeavors like this one, and have been crushed under the weight of having a real life and a never-ending list of forum newbies shouting "I want one!" I believe if anybody can do it, you can. Good luck!
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Re: Newer development...

Postby oletrucker » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:05 am

Haven't been following the forum very often lately, sometimes life just gets in the way. Have been following 3rd gen locker-by-pass projects for a few years now. I think if anybody can do this it is going to be you. Would like to purchase a unit when they are ready and thanks for keeping us updated. Waiting for more good news on this project.
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Buzzman » Mon May 01, 2017 2:14 pm

Any news on by-pass?
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Mon May 01, 2017 3:27 pm

I need to get back to SLC and continue where I left off. No real news yet, been busy with a startup company. I haven't forgotten about it, I want one for my truck as well.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby apalma302 » Wed May 31, 2017 12:06 pm

Hello I would like the locker bypass for my 2017 PW. Please count me in for one when ready. Thanks
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:06 pm

Ok, I have made some more progress. I will need to do some load testing to be certain that the design can handle the electrical current. Oh and one more thing, this is a maintenance-free design. It's without mechanical relays and all solid state.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby 2005PW » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:17 pm

Great work Pit Slave, as I have recently traded my '05 PW for a '17, I fnd myself need a new by-pass! Count me in.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby oletrucker » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:50 pm

Surprised that you are still working on this project, but it is refreshing to here from you. What is the expected wait time until you have a unit completed and just what Gen's of the PW will it work on? How soon before you have enough units to sell? Inquiring minds would like to know!
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:54 am

In all honesty, the main unit should work with anything. The only issue is I haven't worked on the newer trucks with the CAD system on the front axle.

Once everything is worked out on the design and finalized, it should be about a 2~3 week turn around or sooner. I am doing my best to stick with a more readily available parts source instead of slow vendors. The wiring is from a US manufacturer, the same one that supplies to the "big3" so it's specific for automotive use. I can at the user's request upgrade that to mil spec Teflon at cost of the wire. Not cheap.

But like I said, I need to do some abusive testing on the circuit/electronics to be able to give it a go.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby Colibri » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:41 pm

For those of us with air lockers would you be able to make something to fool the computer into thinking the oem lockers are still plugged in? I get tired of the flashing " your locker no worky" lights.
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:17 pm

I don't see why not.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby Idaho RC » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:58 pm

I am a new 2017 owner and I am would really like to have control of the lockers and sway bar. I hope you can get it worked out to supply kits.
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Re: Newer development...

Postby ramv » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:15 pm

X2. My 2016 needs this. I do have the BD 2lo kit so I fool the truck a bit (t case in 4 wd but CAD doesn't engage.) Would love to go direct on lockers..
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Re: Newer development...

Postby 13BlkPowerWagon » Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:55 am

I'd be in for one on my 2013.
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:09 pm

Update, I have started doing the board schematic and layout. Once that has been completed I can start working towards getting a cost of the components and price point figured out.

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Re: Newer development...

Postby olyelr » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:28 pm

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Re: Newer development...

Postby MikeKey » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:09 am

Pit Slave wrote:2, a replacement board for your smartbar that will require removal of the plug from the circuit board(advanced skills recommend for the removal and soldering/reflow of circuit board);



And what will the replacement board for the smartbar do exactly ??
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Numbnuts » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:39 pm

:rockon: I'm subscribing to this thread.....and add me to the growing list of "I want one"......4th gen 2011.....
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Re: Newer development...

Postby Pit Slave » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:23 pm

MikeKey wrote:
Pit Slave wrote:2, a replacement board for your smartbar that will require removal of the plug from the circuit board(advanced skills recommend for the removal and soldering/reflow of circuit board);



And what will the replacement board for the smartbar do exactly ??

Give you total control of the system.

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