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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by btsbarton » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:33 pm

Does this work on the 2019/2020 5th Gen models?

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:39 pm

A lot has changed with the 2019, the lockers are now wired into the controller area network (CAN-Bus) data stream, so the only way to manipulate them now is to modify the software or hardwire them with separate switches.

The good news is that the locker bypass isn't really as necessary on the 2019s as it was on the older trucks, due to the fact that, starting in 2019, RAM now allows the rear locker to work in 2WD & 4HI. This was one of the major complaints on the older trucks that caused the need/desire for a locker bypass.

Long story short, I don't have a locker bypass for the 2019 and don’t really have any plans to develop one, since all the new owners seem to be satisfied with the function of the new factory system.

Are you having issues with the engagement of the lockers on your truck? If a problem arises and there is a demand for a solution, I’ll do my best to meet the challenge, but at this point no one has complained about the locker function on the 19+ trucks.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by btsbarton » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 am

I can’t speak to how well/reliably they work compared to prior generations since this is my first PW.
They do seem to lock quickly if they are going to lock, but some times I’ve found I have to move it a bit for it to want to lock. But yes it is nice I can lock the rear in 2wd or 4WD high.
I’m assuming the answer is going to be the same For the sway bar disconnect, but that would be nice to disconnect the sway bar in 2wd and at more than 20mph

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:00 am

btsbarton wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:21 am
I can’t speak to how well/reliably they work compared to prior generations since this is my first PW.
They do seem to lock quickly if they are going to lock, but some times I’ve found I have to move it a bit for it to want to lock. But yes it is nice I can lock the rear in 2wd or 4WD high.
I’m assuming the answer is going to be the same For the sway bar disconnect, but that would be nice to disconnect the sway bar in 2wd and at more than 20mph
Actually, the Sway Bar Bypass works on all years of Power Wagon to liberate the sway bar from its nannies. However, to accomplish this I had to abandon the factory switch and use my own dedicated rocker switch. You can read more about it here: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6736

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Post by JRHPWRWAGON06 » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:54 pm

I would like to see a new thread on the combined locker/smart bar bypass for 3G PW.
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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by 3rdGenLife » Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:37 pm

Are these generation specific? Will a bypass built for an ‘18 work in a 2008 truck?

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:51 am

JRHPWRWAGON06 wrote:
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I would like to see a new thread on the combined locker/smart bar bypass for 3G PW.
I'll try to post a new thread soon. I've been having problems with the 2005 model year. I was waiting to see if I could get it resolved, can't get the factory sway bar switch to indicate properly. 2005 is different than all the other years. At this point the "Full SmartBar Bypass" is only available for 2006-2012 trucks, giving the driver full control of the lockers and sway bar from the factory switches. All the other years can use the "Sway Bar Bypass" with a dedicated rocker switch. Same results, just not as sexy.
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Are these generation specific? Will a bypass built for an ‘18 work in a 2008 truck?
They are generation specific. The control box is the same but the wiring harnesses are completely different. 3rd gen mounts in the cab, under the dash and uses a 14 pin T-harness, 4th gen mounts in the engine compartment and uses a 10 pin T-harness.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by 3rdGenLife » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:38 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:51 am
JRHPWRWAGON06 wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:54 pm
I would like to see a new thread on the combined locker/smart bar bypass for 3G PW.
I'll try to post a new thread soon. I've been having problems with the 2005 model year. I was waiting to see if I could get it resolved, can't get the factory sway bar switch to indicate properly. 2005 is different than all the other years. At this point the "Full SmartBar Bypass" is only available for 2006-2012 trucks, giving the driver full control of the lockers and sway bar from the factory switches. All the other years can use the "Sway Bar Bypass" with a dedicated rocker switch. Same results, just not as sexy.
3rdGenLife wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:37 pm
Are these generation specific? Will a bypass built for an ‘18 work in a 2008 truck?
They are generation specific. The control box is the same but the wiring harnesses are completely different. 3rd gen mounts in the cab, under the dash and uses a 14 pin T-harness, 4th gen mounts in the engine compartment and uses a 10 pin T-harness.
Do you have any 3rd gen units available right now? You should have an email from me asking the above question. That might be easier communication.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Gizmo0331 » Mon May 04, 2020 1:57 pm

Are the locker and Sway bar kits still available and if so how do i go about ordering them

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Post by Retired BLM Rig » Mon May 04, 2020 3:42 pm

Yes they’re still available, just send me an email at: AbelComponents@yahoo.com

Include the year of your truck in your email and I’ll give you some configuration options to consider. Also let me know if you’re having any out of the ordinary issues with your system, like constant flashing lights or no lights on the dashboard.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by MODC » Thu May 07, 2020 11:58 am

Hello!
Does this kit bypass both the lockers and the sway bar, or do you need this and the stand alone sway bar kit? Or, is there another one of your kits that does it all?
It is for a 2017 PW.
The locker dance to the locker Gods drives me nuts, and I can't tell you how much I ride around in 4hi just to disconnect the sway bar to smooth out the ride off road!

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Thu May 07, 2020 4:53 pm

For a 2017 you would need this kit and the standalone swaybar kit. The combined kit only works on 2006-2012 trucks.

This kit will make the lockers dance to your tune. The sway bar bypass will give you complete control of the sway bar in any transfer case range, at any speed.

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Post by Retired BLM Rig » Fri Aug 14, 2020 11:31 pm

Well, it finally happened... I built a Locker Bypass for a Dodge/Ram dealer to fix a 2005 that they couldn't get parts for anymore. I guess they're not worried about voiding the lifetime warranty. :lol:

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Post by RustyPW » Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:07 am

I have the Lifetime Powertrain warranty on my 08. They wouldn't honor it when my smartbar died. :box: Think because they didn't have any smartbars for 08's in the system. I had to get mine from a place in Texas.
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Post by KevinABQ » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:50 pm

So I’m going to Moab in a week and a half but started getting weird light patterns on the locker switch without any errors being thrown on Monday. As in I’m in low with the rear locked, the front not locked and then suddenly it’s fully unlocked and trying to lock both the rear and front. And then I go back into 2w and drive home and turn the dial to unlocked and it shows the rear locked and trying to unlock as I’m parked in my driveway.

I’m trying to figure out if this is a good candidate for your bypass or is there something else going on.
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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:08 pm

I would start by jacking up the rear axle and testing the ability to lock and unlock, to make sure that nothing is hanging up mechanically inside the rear axle. Then you could inspect and clean the connectors and apply dielectric grease. The next thing would be to clean the small sensor magnets inside the front rear axle and check the air gap.

Weird flashing light problems are usually the final drive control module trying to inform you that it sees a problem and has an error code. You would need a professional grade scan tool capable of communicating with the final drive control module to be able to read those codes.

As long as there is nothing mechanically or electrically wrong inside the front or rear axle, the locker bypass would solve these problems.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by KevinABQ » Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:52 pm

Apparently rear locker solenoid failed.

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by rhino » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:57 pm

I have a 2005 and I have the problem of the serv 4wd light with the locker lights flashing. When that happens the sway bar still disconnects but the lockers won't engage. Usually happens in wet conditions. Will this fix my problem?

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Re: Abel Components Locker Bypass® $450

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:57 pm

rhino wrote:
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I have a 2005 and I have the problem of the serv 4wd light with the locker lights flashing. When that happens the sway bar still disconnects but the lockers won't engage. Usually happens in wet conditions. Will this fix my problem?
Yes, it will stop your flashing locker lights but it won't turn off your "Serv 4WD" light.

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