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Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:15 pm
by Tejas
I asked for better pricing on the air bags and cradles and auto anything took off another $20-ish off of the combo. So the air bags and cradles have been ordered, I hope to get them installed next weekend if they arrive by then.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:10 pm
by Idaho RC
Thanks a bunch for taking time to post this. I have the Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags and Daystar cradles installed on my 2017. I am working on the airlines now. The post was really helpful!

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:01 pm
by olyelr
Idaho RC wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:10 pm
Thanks a bunch for taking time to post this. I have the Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags and Daystar cradles installed on my 2017. I am working on the airlines now. The post was really helpful!
Heck yea!

Only thing I would do differently is start right off with a compressor and dual path auto air setup.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:26 pm
by trailerpup
Right bag blew out the other day. Leaking out of the center hole in the bottom under the label. Replacement was 150-ish. Swapped out in 15 minutes. I'm going to keep at least 5lbs in them from here on out and see how it goes. Cheers.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:16 am
by pw1601
Great thread guys!
Wondering if anyone upgraded their swaybar along with bags?

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 am
by TankerZak
pw1601 wrote:Great thread guys!
Wondering if anyone upgraded their swaybar along with bags?
Rear sway bar? It's fine. But I would do the rear trackbar with a Thuren unit. That'll make a big impact.

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Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:19 pm
by DamageWagon
One of the OG PWIM guys did a Currie AntiRock swaybar in the rear and said it was a big improvement. That rear bar sits fairly narrowly so it makes sense that adding a wider bar with adjustability is helpful. Don’t know how much that really applies to most guys unless you’re running top heavy or jamming hard in the dirt.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:48 pm
by pw1601
Has anyone experienced problems with mud and stones getting into the cradle over time?

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:32 pm
by Oilbrnr
I really don't do much mud, and will go out of my way to avoid it if possible, but I do 2-3k of desert dirt/sand a year. And it's been a year since I put mine in. I had it on my lift this past weekend eyeing available real-estate for some future mods, and I gave them a good once over. My concern was wear from abrasion where the bag settles in the cradle. So far so good.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:18 am
by pw1601
Thanks for the help guys. I'm gonna go with the bags, cradles, and track bar.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:10 am
by HeavyDuty
Has anyone thought of connecting the airlines together before the fill port? I really don’t haul uneven loads. And if one bag is leaking for some reason I’d like them to stay the same pressure. My two thoughts

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 am
by ScubaSteve
HeavyDuty wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:10 am
Has anyone thought of connecting the airlines together before the fill port? I really don’t haul uneven loads. And if one bag is leaking for some reason I’d like them to stay the same pressure. My two thoughts
The problem with that would come from stability. On a level, static surface that might work. Differences in the elasticity of the two bags due to manufacturing tolerances would effect side to side level in that scenario. Once you start throwing any sort of lateral force into the body of the truck, like driving through a curve or a turn, you compress one bag and where does the air go in that bag? It doesn't compress with the bag, but it travels through the line to the other bag, that is currently being unloaded and "inflates" that bag further, making the truck lean further and decreasing stability.

If a bag is leaking then that needs to be addressed, not covered up with a bandaid.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:49 am
by Bill2014
ScubaSteve wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 am
HeavyDuty wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:10 am
Has anyone thought of connecting the airlines together before the fill port? I really don’t haul uneven loads. And if one bag is leaking for some reason I’d like them to stay the same pressure. My two thoughts
The problem with that would come from stability. On a level, static surface that might work. Differences in the elasticity of the two bags due to manufacturing tolerances would effect side to side level in that scenario. Once you start throwing any sort of lateral force into the body of the truck, like driving through a curve or a turn, you compress one bag and where does the air go in that bag? It doesn't compress with the bag, but it travels through the line to the other bag, that is currently being unloaded and "inflates" that bag further, making the truck lean further and decreasing stability.

If a bag is leaking then that needs to be addressed, not covered up with a bandaid.
And that is a very good point when the bags aren't independently controlled... :idea: Awesome catch!
Don't increase the air line sizes between the bags - or on a long sweeping turn, air will rush to the turn inside bag and cause extra tipping. This doesn't happen with spring suspension because an extended spring exerts less force than a compressed spring. Air pressure at equilibrium between an extended and compressed bag exerts the same force.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:32 pm
by HeavyDuty
That is a very good point. That’s why I throw the questions out to other people. Thanks again.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:57 am
by HeavyDuty
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Well the install went great thanks to this write up. Loaded up the box with a full load of Douglas fir. And instead of being bottomed right out I was level as can be. And no more wobbling on the highway. A very successful install. Thanks guys.

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:47 am
by olyelr
Heck yea!

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:51 am
by olyelr
I didnt even add air to the bags here...mainly because I dont have onboard air (and I wasnt traveling very far).
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Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 7:47 pm
by pw1601
I finally got around to doing this. In my case (a 2019) I didn't have to tap the hole for the cradle. There was plenty of room to get a nut on the bolt and get a wrench in there to hold it. So far it's working great!

Re: Airlifter 5000 Ultimate airbags w/ Daystar cradles '14+

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:42 pm
by Chubbs
Mine arrived Sunday. Hopefully, I'll get the chance to install them this week.