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Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:04 pm
by Reloaderguy
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
Thanks for the input guys. I went to Discount this afternoon and had them order me up some BFG KM3's. I've been hearing that coopers are a hit or miss as far as having issues with them so I didnt feel like taking that chance again. Plus I'm only having to pay an additional $160 for the KM3's when normally it would be an additional $400 or so over these coopers. I almost went with Nitto Trail Grapplers as I've had a set in 35s on my 1500 Ram and loved them. They were about the same price as KM3's but I figured I would try something different. I've heard good things about the new KM3 and that they have made some good improvements over the KM2 especially with reducing the road noise quite a bit. I was going to go with the Toyo MT but they said those tires are a bit hard to come by and can take a while to get in. Plus I've heard that they don't have the best life compared to other MT's and the guy helping me confirmed that his 40" Toyo MT's wear out crazy fast. I should have them by Monday. Wish me luck!
They just didn't want to sell you Toyos. If you want the roundest, highest quality tire, Toyo is the answer. Everything else is a compromise for lower price.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:34 pm
by olyelr
Reloaderguy wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:04 pm
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
Thanks for the input guys. I went to Discount this afternoon and had them order me up some BFG KM3's. I've been hearing that coopers are a hit or miss as far as having issues with them so I didnt feel like taking that chance again. Plus I'm only having to pay an additional $160 for the KM3's when normally it would be an additional $400 or so over these coopers. I almost went with Nitto Trail Grapplers as I've had a set in 35s on my 1500 Ram and loved them. They were about the same price as KM3's but I figured I would try something different. I've heard good things about the new KM3 and that they have made some good improvements over the KM2 especially with reducing the road noise quite a bit. I was going to go with the Toyo MT but they said those tires are a bit hard to come by and can take a while to get in. Plus I've heard that they don't have the best life compared to other MT's and the guy helping me confirmed that his 40" Toyo MT's wear out crazy fast. I should have them by Monday. Wish me luck!
They just didn't want to sell you Toyos. If you want the roundest, highest quality tire, Toyo is the answer. Everything else is a compromise for lower price.
Oh I’m sure they did, he just didnt want to pay for them.

And Toyo tires dream of being half as good of a tire as a bee eff goodwrench tire.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:32 pm
by 16PW
1pieceatatime wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:54 pm
16PW - are you in a snow belt? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the KM3 if you are.

No I live in Phoenix AZ. I'll definitely be driving them in the snow since I go skiing often so I'll be sure to give some feedback.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:55 am
by olyelr
1pieceatatime wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:54 pm
16PW - are you in a snow belt? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the KM3 if you are.
FordyceCreekTrail has a set that he uses in the snow. He was bragging them up not long ago, but other than that I havnt heard much chatter about them from him...

While I would expect them to be a bit better than the km2’s were, I would also think that they are nowhere near as good as a designated AT or snow tire.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:42 am
by 1pieceatatime
The classic Michigan tire conundrum - mud tires simply being suboptimal for our winter roads.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm
by Oilbrnr
1pieceatatime wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:54 pm
16PW - are you in a snow belt? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the KM3 if you are.
He mentioned that he is here in the Phoenix metro area. That said, snow does (normally) fall this time of year in higher elevations, ie Flagstaff, so the potential is available.

I work for Discount and also reside in AZ. I've got some new General X3's that I'm dying to try in both fresh snow and ice. Well maybe not so much ice, but I am curious.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:57 am
by 16PW
I finally got the KM3's on Friday. First impressions are great! Smooth and quiet. Height wise I can't tell a difference, but I'm pretty sure they measure .2" shorter than the STT. Width wise they are definitely narrower which I'm completely fine with since I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RUBBING! I now have an extra 1/4 turn gain in the steering wheel which makes a decent difference when parking. I put them to the test on Saturday as I went playing around behind Lake Pleasant. A lot of rocky terrain and steep hill climbs. I never used the lockers because it was nothing crazy, but never had a tire break lose. They also have really good lateral grip as I was trying to get them to break loose on some turns, but they kept the back end under control. So far I'm really happy with them. We'll see how they hold up over time.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:11 am
by RPS1030
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:57 am
I finally got the KM3's on Friday. First impressions are great! Smooth and quiet. Height wise I can't tell a difference, but I'm pretty sure they measure .2" shorter than the STT. Width wise they are definitely narrower which I'm completely fine with since I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RUBBING! I now have an extra 1/4 turn gain in the steering wheel which makes a decent difference when parking. I put them to the test on Saturday as I went playing around behind Lake Pleasant. A lot of rocky terrain and steep hill climbs. I never used the lockers because it was nothing crazy, but never had a tire break lose. They also have really good lateral grip as I was trying to get them to break loose on some turns, but they kept the back end under control. So far I'm really happy with them. We'll see how they hold up over time.
Chunking will be he big question mark. KO2s seem to fall apart quickly around here. Love my Toyo RTs.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:23 am
by 16PW
I went through about 25 miles of pretty rocky roads and they still look like new. I think BFG really stepped it up in all aspects with the KM3. Time will tell.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:09 am
by Bill2014
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:23 am
I went through about 25 miles of pretty rocky roads and they still look like new. I think BFG really stepped it up in all aspects with the KM3. Time will tell.
Yeah - They had better look like new after 25 miles! :poke: :D

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:25 am
by 16PW
Bill2014 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:09 am
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:23 am
I went through about 25 miles of pretty rocky roads and they still look like new. I think BFG really stepped it up in all aspects with the KM3. Time will tell.
Yeah - They had better look like new after 25 miles! :poke: :D
lol I have tore up a cheap spare MT tire before on just 1 trip.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:34 pm
by Oilbrnr
Glad DT got you fixed up.

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:56 pm
by bstefanic
Reloaderguy wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:04 pm
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:07 pm
Thanks for the input guys. I went to Discount this afternoon and had them order me up some BFG KM3's. I've been hearing that coopers are a hit or miss as far as having issues with them so I didnt feel like taking that chance again. Plus I'm only having to pay an additional $160 for the KM3's when normally it would be an additional $400 or so over these coopers. I almost went with Nitto Trail Grapplers as I've had a set in 35s on my 1500 Ram and loved them. They were about the same price as KM3's but I figured I would try something different. I've heard good things about the new KM3 and that they have made some good improvements over the KM2 especially with reducing the road noise quite a bit. I was going to go with the Toyo MT but they said those tires are a bit hard to come by and can take a while to get in. Plus I've heard that they don't have the best life compared to other MT's and the guy helping me confirmed that his 40" Toyo MT's wear out crazy fast. I should have them by Monday. Wish me luck!
They just didn't want to sell you Toyos. If you want the roundest, highest quality tire, Toyo is the answer. Everything else is a compromise for lower price.
Couldn't agree more...both my 37's and 40's required zero weight to balance on an M/T. I'll never run a different tire

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 pm
by StefanB
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:57 am
I finally got the KM3's on Friday. First impressions are great! Smooth and quiet. Height wise I can't tell a difference, but I'm pretty sure they measure .2" shorter than the STT. Width wise they are definitely narrower which I'm completely fine with since I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RUBBING! I now have an extra 1/4 turn gain in the steering wheel which makes a decent difference when parking. I put them to the test on Saturday as I went playing around behind Lake Pleasant. A lot of rocky terrain and steep hill climbs. I never used the lockers because it was nothing crazy, but never had a tire break lose. They also have really good lateral grip as I was trying to get them to break loose on some turns, but they kept the back end under control. So far I'm really happy with them. We'll see how they hold up over time.
Looks great!

Can't really read it on the Pictures but I'm guessing 37x12.50 wide and stock suspension from the looks?

Been thinking about 18x9 Method NV's and 37x13.50 KM3's for spring, currently running 315/70R17 KO2's on the factory wheels on my 2017

Re: 37's Not Balancing

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:56 pm
by 16PW
StefanB wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 pm
16PW wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:57 am
I finally got the KM3's on Friday. First impressions are great! Smooth and quiet. Height wise I can't tell a difference, but I'm pretty sure they measure .2" shorter than the STT. Width wise they are definitely narrower which I'm completely fine with since I NO LONGER HAVE ANY RUBBING! I now have an extra 1/4 turn gain in the steering wheel which makes a decent difference when parking. I put them to the test on Saturday as I went playing around behind Lake Pleasant. A lot of rocky terrain and steep hill climbs. I never used the lockers because it was nothing crazy, but never had a tire break lose. They also have really good lateral grip as I was trying to get them to break loose on some turns, but they kept the back end under control. So far I'm really happy with them. We'll see how they hold up over time.
Looks great!

Can't really read it on the Pictures but I'm guessing 37x12.50 wide and stock suspension from the looks?

Been thinking about 18x9 Method NV's and 37x13.50 KM3's for spring, currently running 315/70R17 KO2's on the factory wheels on my 2017
Thanks! Yes, 37x12.50 on stock suspension. Do it! No rubbing and very quiet for an MT!