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Chains up front?

Post by btsbarton » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:56 pm

I just ordered a pair of v-bar ladder chains for my truck. I plan to run them on the rear axle side the chain guide that ram issues lists chains for rear axle only. But I’m curious if anyone runs them on the front without issues??
I’ve got 35s, so I know that steals a bit of clearance too, I’m thinking they probably wouldn’t fit on the front unless I got lower profile chains for the front.

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Post by DamageWagon » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:02 am

What year is your truck? If a 2003-13 do you have factory control arms?

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Post by btsbarton » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:15 am

Yeah I should have included that info. It’s a 2019. Suspension, wheels, and bumper is all stock and plan on keeping it that way. My tires are 35” (315/70/17) though.

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Post by DamageWagon » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:17 am

It might be close. The lower edge of the fender flare would be the contact point. Clearance when parked is different than clearance going 30mph when the chains are centrifuging out.

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Post by btsbarton » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:28 am

If I’ve got chains on I’m probably not hauling ass at 30mph anywhere. In fact more likely I’m on a snowy trail. But Yeah I figured that leading edge of the fender well might be close, especially when turning with the suspension flexing a bit. Any concerns with brake lines on the inside, or are they pretty safe?

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Post by TankerZak » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:45 am

btsbarton wrote:If I’ve got chains on I’m probably not hauling ass at 30mph anywhere. In fact more likely I’m on a snowy trail. But Yeah I figured that leading edge of the fender well might be close, especially when turning with the suspension flexing a bit. Any concerns with brake lines on the inside, or are they pretty safe?
Low profile cables would be a good bet and the only thing that would fit.

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Re: Chains up front?

Post by btsbarton » Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:00 am

TankerZak wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:45 am
btsbarton wrote:If I’ve got chains on I’m probably not hauling ass at 30mph anywhere. In fact more likely I’m on a snowy trail. But Yeah I figured that leading edge of the fender well might be close, especially when turning with the suspension flexing a bit. Any concerns with brake lines on the inside, or are they pretty safe?
Low profile cables would be a good bet and the only thing that would fit.

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Yeah I could probably get away with low profile chains/cables in the front, if the vbars don’t fit. Downside is Ive found the low profile diamond chains are a bit more of a hassle/confusing to install, and Im not sure how durable they would be off-road.

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Post by SeppW » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 pm

What does the owner's manual say? Mine says no go. Just asking the obvious.

Seems contact with something as the front components are pretty close to inboard side of tire.

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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:10 pm

This guy runs them up front (Low_Sky maybe?). Maybe he will chime in with his experience.
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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:13 pm

Yea not sure how a pic of my daughter got in there LOL. Maybe a mod could remove it?
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Post by btsbarton » Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:32 pm

SeppW wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 pm
What does the owner's manual say? Mine says no go. Just asking the obvious.

Seems contact with something as the front components are pretty close to inboard side of tire.
Manual says rear only for 2500, 2500 Power Wagon, and 3500 SRW. Interestingly it says Front or Rear for 3500 DRW. I can’t imagine what the difference in the FRONT is on a Dually??

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Post by olyelr » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:36 pm

btsbarton wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:32 pm
SeppW wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 pm
What does the owner's manual say? Mine says no go. Just asking the obvious.

Seems contact with something as the front components are pretty close to inboard side of tire.
Manual says rear only for 2500, 2500 Power Wagon, and 3500 SRW. Interestingly it says Front or Rear for 3500 DRW. I can’t imagine what the difference in the FRONT is on a Dually??
The tires are much skinner, and they stick out farther.
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Post by SeppW » Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:38 pm

Probably because the stock tire on a dually is pretty narrow and chain wouldn't be slapping/hitting the suspension. A 3500 4WD Dually with 33s and up is another matter.

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Post by btsbarton » Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:10 pm

olyelr wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 3:36 pm
btsbarton wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:32 pm
SeppW wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 pm
What does the owner's manual say? Mine says no go. Just asking the obvious.

Seems contact with something as the front components are pretty close to inboard side of tire.
Manual says rear only for 2500, 2500 Power Wagon, and 3500 SRW. Interestingly it says Front or Rear for 3500 DRW. I can’t imagine what the difference in the FRONT is on a Dually??
The tires are much skinner, and they stick out farther.
Ah good point I forgot they have different wheels

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Post by pw1601 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:39 pm

btsbarton wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:00 am
TankerZak wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:45 am
btsbarton wrote:If I’ve got chains on I’m probably not hauling ass at 30mph anywhere. In fact more likely I’m on a snowy trail. But Yeah I figured that leading edge of the fender well might be close, especially when turning with the suspension flexing a bit. Any concerns with brake lines on the inside, or are they pretty safe?
Low profile cables would be a good bet and the only thing that would fit.

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Yeah I could probably get away with low profile chains/cables in the front, if the vbars don’t fit. Downside is Ive found the low profile diamond chains are a bit more of a hassle/confusing to install, and Im not sure how durable they would be off-road.
I'm not sure which type of diamond chains you've tried, but the diamond quick fit style from tirechains.com are much easier to install than regular chains. Might be something worth looking at.

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Post by btsbarton » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:44 pm

I don’t know what brand they were...I was helping someone put them on their truck (a Raptor) and they kept getting tangled, It was confusing with all these different color chains and hooks, and we couldn’t get them to tighten up properly. It didn’t help that I wasn’t familiar with them and wasn’t really either since he had only installed them once before in his driveway. But it left a sour taste in my mouth for that type of tire chains.

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Post by pw1601 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:58 am

btsbarton wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:44 pm
I don’t know what brand they were...I was helping someone put them on their truck (a Raptor) and they kept getting tangled, It was confusing with all these different color chains and hooks, and we couldn’t get them to tighten up properly. It didn’t help that I wasn’t familiar with them and wasn’t really either since he had only installed them once before in his driveway. But it left a sour taste in my mouth for that type of tire chains.
I'd keep an open mind to trying them again. The ones I got even have a weather resistant paper inside the package that has pictures to help.
I also once a year in the fall put them on in the garage to refresh my memory.
I did come up with one little trick that helps. If needed you can reach out to me.

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Post by btsbarton » Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:49 am

pw1601 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 6:58 am
btsbarton wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:44 pm
I don’t know what brand they were...I was helping someone put them on their truck (a Raptor) and they kept getting tangled, It was confusing with all these different color chains and hooks, and we couldn’t get them to tighten up properly. It didn’t help that I wasn’t familiar with them and wasn’t really either since he had only installed them once before in his driveway. But it left a sour taste in my mouth for that type of tire chains.
I'd keep an open mind to trying them again. The ones I got even have a weather resistant paper inside the package that has pictures to help.
I also once a year in the fall put them on in the garage to refresh my memory.
I did come up with one little trick that helps. If needed you can reach out to me.
Thanks for the info, I’ll have to try my vbars on the front and see if they might fit first. I will just stick with one pair this year, and maybe next year I’ll get another pair of v-bars or the diamond style depending on what fits.
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