EMF steering linkage?

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EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Tue May 21, 2019 6:58 pm

Does EMF still make the steering linkage? If so, where can I find it?
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Post by Pit Slave » Tue May 21, 2019 8:38 pm

As of the last time I checked, not in the USA. It's ashame too, because the set on my PW is still awesome after all of these years! Absolutely ZERO deflection and 100% pure USDA BEEF! You could always get the ends and put one together or ask Clay himself nicely to make you one.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Wed May 22, 2019 4:29 pm

Well..........I ordered the DOR steering linkage. The 1013-STANDARD DOR Heavy Duty Steering Kit, Bolt-In, Standard Kit with stabilizer clamp and heim seals.

Both tie-rod ends on the drag link are bad on my PW. I could hear/feel a slight knock at slow speeds. Took a while to find it.

And my new smart bar should be here next Tuesday.

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Post by DamageWagon » Wed May 22, 2019 6:32 pm

Eek. Check that the thing has enough travel on your truck! Mine made it two weeks of street driving before it snapped the pin at the pitman. Got the ‘new and improved’ pin from DOR and it snapped a few weeks later. The kit did not have nearly enough travel to work and the flop/clunk and dead spot in the center were annoying. Be careful with that setup. It was nowhere near developed enough and flat out dangerous.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by DamageWagon » Wed May 22, 2019 6:38 pm

You went from the (potentially) best steering setup ever developed for these trucks, to what might be the worst. Following all of my testing I am a big fan of the Mopar linkage. Especially for the price, just run it and replace it when it wears out. It will not be cheaper to run a full heim steering kit unless you’re running it for over a decade.

I’m even hesitant on the EMF stuff because there’s so many adjustment points, and it’s damn expensive! I liked my EMF bar but I snapped it as well because it didn’t have enough travel. You can buy 4 full Mopar kits for the price of an EMF setup.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by OffroadTreks » Wed May 22, 2019 7:07 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 6:38 pm
RustyPW wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 4:29 pm
Well..........I ordered the DOR steering linkage. The 1013-STANDARD DOR Heavy Duty Steering Kit, Bolt-In, Standard Kit with stabilizer clamp and heim seals.

Both tie-rod ends on the drag link are bad on my PW. I could hear/feel a slight knock at slow speeds. Took a while to find it.

And my new smart bar should be here next Tuesday.

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You went from the (potentially) best steering setup ever developed for these trucks, to what might be the worst. Following all of my testing I am a big fan of the Mopar linkage. Especially for the price, just run it and replace it when it wears out. It will not be cheaper to run a full heim steering kit unless you’re running it for over a decade.

I’m even hesitant on the EMF stuff because there’s so many adjustment points, and it’s damn expensive! I liked my EMF bar but I snapped it as well because it didn’t have enough travel. You can buy 4 full Mopar kits for the price of an EMF setup.
It's highly doubtful he'll even receive it based on the numerous convo's I've had with people about that company and how they operate and conduct themselves.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by Low_Sky » Wed May 22, 2019 8:40 pm

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Wed May 22, 2019 10:13 pm

Where were you guys yesterday? :doh:
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by DamageWagon » Wed May 22, 2019 10:15 pm

RustyPW wrote:Where were you guys yesterday? :doh:
Do you want my spare pins?

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Wed May 22, 2019 10:18 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 10:15 pm
RustyPW wrote:Where were you guys yesterday? :doh:
Do you want my spare pins?

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No thanks. I'm cancelling the order tomorrow, and calling my credit card company. Was reading through the BBB thread. Holly shit!!! :shock:
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by Pit Slave » Wed May 22, 2019 10:32 pm

RustyPW wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 10:15 pm
RustyPW wrote:Where were you guys yesterday? :doh:
Do you want my spare pins?

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No thanks. I'm cancelling the order tomorrow, and calling my credit card company. Was reading through the BBB thread. Holly shit!!! :shock:
You don't have to wait to call your cc company, you can call them now and let them know of the issue.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Thu May 23, 2019 7:15 pm

Pit Slave wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 10:32 pm
RustyPW wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 10:15 pm
RustyPW wrote:Where were you guys yesterday? :doh:
Do you want my spare pins?

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No thanks. I'm cancelling the order tomorrow, and calling my credit card company. Was reading through the BBB thread. Holly shit!!! :shock:
You don't have to wait to call your cc company, you can call them now and let them know of the issue.

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Called the credit card company first and told them to cancel the transaction. Then call DOR. Talked to a woman. Told her that I want to cancel. She put me on hold for a few minutes then came back on. Ask a few questions. I could hear a guy in the background talking, but couldn't make out what he was saying. Told her that I already called the bank. The phone went dead for a few moments. She came back on, and I could hear the guy in the background say motherfucker. She said that it will be tomorrow before they could do anything. And hung up.
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Thu May 23, 2019 7:18 pm

Anyone got part numbers for the pitman arm tie-rod end, and the long tie-rod end from there to the cross bar. It's the T style linkage. When I give my VIN number, it comes back with the Y style linkage.
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by DamageWagon » Thu May 23, 2019 7:18 pm

Did they give you any hassle before you talked to your bank?

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Thu May 23, 2019 7:36 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
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Did they give you any hassle before you talked to your bank?
i talked to the bank first to get the ball rolling. Then called DOR. Think they was shocked that I called the bank first. No hassle so far. Fingers crossed.

Hey, what's your opinion on the Thuren drag link? This is what I need.

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by DamageWagon » Thu May 23, 2019 8:22 pm

I have the Thuren drag link. It’s pure beefcake. It is heim style so you can’t perfectly adjust it like the factory drag link, otherwise it’s great. It steers a lot easier than my EMF link did and does not clunk. I can get you one if you’d like to go that route.

I definitely recommend the factory Mopar tie rod.

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Post by Reloaderguy » Thu May 23, 2019 8:52 pm

I don't know how DOR stays in business with the reputation they have.

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Post by Pit Slave » Thu May 23, 2019 9:05 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:I don't know how DOR stays in business with the reputation they have.
Do a little research, and you will have your answer.....

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Post by Reloaderguy » Fri May 24, 2019 6:13 pm

Pit Slave wrote:
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Reloaderguy wrote:I don't know how DOR stays in business with the reputation they have.
Do a little research, and you will have your answer.....

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Wed May 29, 2019 9:17 pm

Ordered the Thuren drag link from DamageWagon today. :rockon:
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by DamageWagon » Wed May 29, 2019 9:46 pm

Thanks again Rusty! Would love to hear some feedback on it after you get back from Rausch!!

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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by RustyPW » Thu May 30, 2019 12:02 am

DamageWagon wrote:
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Thanks again Rusty! Would love to hear some feedback on it after you get back from Rausch!!
Will do. Good, bad or inbetween.
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by SeppW » Thu May 30, 2019 8:19 pm

Interesting conversation. I was looking DOR drag link to replace the OE link with the latest recall out on it. Haven't taken it in for the recall yet. I'm leery about the recall fix, assuming all is good, to weld the jam nuts. Doesn't make sense and no longer able to center steering wheel when needed. I guess it is a tac weld so it can be ground off if adjustment is needed.
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Post by KevinABQ » Fri May 31, 2019 9:10 am

SeppW wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:19 pm
Interesting conversation. I was looking DOR drag link to replace the OE link with the latest recall out on it. Haven't taken it in for the recall yet. I'm leery about the recall fix, assuming all is good, to weld the jam nuts. Doesn't make sense and no longer able to center steering wheel when needed. I guess it is a tac weld so it can be ground off if adjustment is needed.
Nope. It’s a continuous weld around the nuts to the center unit. I suspect it’s going to need a new drag link to adjust it.
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Re: EMF steering linkage?

Post by olyelr » Fri May 31, 2019 9:50 am

KevinABQ wrote:
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Nope. It’s a continuous weld around the nuts to the center unit. I suspect it’s going to need a new drag link to adjust it.
Not the case with this guys drag link “repair”. I cant tell if its bubblegum, jb weld or an actual weld.

Regardless, what a joke.
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