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Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 am

I am a little confused by the way this reads. I am looking just to level out my Power Wagon. Does that mean I want the 1.5"? I'm guessing so.... It just reads wierd to me.

Or does that mean 1.5" or 2" lift?
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Post by PWJouster » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:11 am

its 1.5 inch over factory 2500s but only .5 inch over a factory powerwagon
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Re: Thuren from leveling kit

Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:18 am

Got ya. So will that 1/2" really level out my Power Wagon?

And they give you the option to chose 1-1/2 or 1/2 in a drop down box when ordering?
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Re: Thuren from leveling kit

Post by EasyDoesIt » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:30 am

2014+ Power Wagon 1-1/2" Front Lift will level you. At least it did for me.
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Post by Low_Sky » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:30 am

PWJouster wrote:its 1.5 inch over factory 2500s but only .5 inch over a factory powerwagon
Wrong.

Don’s Hemi springs are 2” and 3” over a normal 2500 gasser. Accounting for the Power Wagon factory lift and weight of the winch, they net 0.5” and 1.5” on a Power Wagon.


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Post by Low_Sky » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:34 am

txjfrosty wrote:I am a little confused by the way this reads. I am looking just to level out my Power Wagon. Does that mean I want the 1.5"? I'm guessing so.... It just reads wierd to me.

Or does that mean 1.5" or 2" lift?
If you want level, get the 1.5” springs. Just be warned, that’s going to be LEVEL. Put any significant weight in the back and the truck is going to sit nose high like a SoCal bro dozer.

1.5” front springs and a 1” rear coil spacer is a popular combo for those looking to gain that extra inch of ground clearance but also keep a little bit of forward rake.


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Re: Thuren from leveling kit

Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:42 am

Awesome! Thanks. That cleared it up.

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Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:48 am

Low_Sky wrote:
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Put any significant weight in the back and the truck is going to sit nose high like a SoCal bro dozer.
Significant weight like 300lbs or 800lbs? I rarely load more than a few hundred lbs in the bed or tow more than 3k-4k pounds.

Thinking level will be good for me.

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Post by TankerZak » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:28 pm

txjfrosty wrote:
Low_Sky wrote:
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Put any significant weight in the back and the truck is going to sit nose high like a SoCal bro dozer.
Significant weight like 300lbs or 800lbs? I rarely load more than a few hundred lbs in the bed or tow more than 3k-4k pounds.

Thinking level will be good for me.
If you do the 1.5 springs and find for whatever reason it's a little nose high with the weight you carry you can add a rear 1 inch spacer for like 100 bucks and come out ahead.

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Re: Thuren front leveling kit

Post by olyelr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:00 pm

txjfrosty wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:04 am
I am a little confused by the way this reads. I am looking just to level out my Power Wagon. Does that mean I want the 1.5"? I'm guessing so.... It just reads wierd to me.

Or does that mean 1.5" or 2" lift?
Im not sure whats so confusing about that. It plainly states what lift height your going to achieve.
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Post by OffroadTreks » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:41 pm

Low_Sky wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:30 am
PWJouster wrote:its 1.5 inch over factory 2500s but only .5 inch over a factory powerwagon
Wrong.

Don’s Hemi springs are 2” and 3” over a normal 2500 gasser. Accounting for the Power Wagon factory lift and weight of the winch, they net 0.5” and 1.5” on a Power Wagon.


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What's confusing is that they are both the same coils, Don has a separate section for the PW. We often confuse people talking about the standard vs the PW.

So a 3-inch lift coil on a standard Hemi is the same as the 1.5 for the PW, but both are the same coil. So it's pretty easy to get this mixed up.

But, most people think their PW is magical. Guys ask all the time why they can't find a PW specific spacer, not realizing it's the same. Or god forbid the trucks. "They don't have 2018 listed" - hey dummies, nothing is different. Maybe they haven't listed it yet. Duh. :doh:

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Post by PWJouster » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:10 pm

uhm, magical is just the tip of it...
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Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:12 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:28 pm
]If you do the 1.5 springs and find for whatever reason it's a little nose high with the weight you carry you can add a rear 1 inch spacer for like 100 bucks and come out ahead.
Perfect! Thank you for the help.

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Re: Thuren front leveling kit

Post by txjfrosty » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:15 pm

olyelr wrote:
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Im not sure whats so confusing about that. It plainly states what lift height your going to achieve.
So "Either 1-1/2" lift or 1/2" lift OVER the factory Power Wagon 1-1/2" front lift." doesn't sound ambiguous to you? It did to me, until it was thoroughly explained.

But thank you for that awesome bit of help...

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Post by olyelr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:57 pm

txjfrosty wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:15 pm
olyelr wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:00 pm
Im not sure whats so confusing about that. It plainly states what lift height your going to achieve.
So "Either 1-1/2" lift or 1/2" lift OVER the factory Power Wagon 1-1/2" front lift." doesn't sound ambiguous to you? It did to me, until it was thoroughly explained.

But thank you for that awesome bit of help...
I saw you had several replies that stated the same thing that you quoted from thurens site, otherwise I would have elaborated.

However, after I read what you quoted from me I realize that was quite a douche response. As much as it sounds like I was being an asshole, it absolutely was not my intention. Everybody interperits things differently... I was just simply stating that I thought Thuren did a perfect job explaining it... but again, that did nothing for the thread.

Get the 1.5” springs if you want it level, get the .5” springs if you want a rake :cheers:

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Post by olyelr » Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:05 pm

And “level” is a bit subjective.

When these Rams are “level”, by measurement, they tend to look a bit low out back.

I have 1.5” spacers under mine, which leaves the back 3/4” or so higher still. I personally would not want the rake any less.

When I get the Thuren overland kit, I plan on adding a spacer in the back. But I will wait till I can see it and take some measurements before I get the spacer.
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Post by TankerZak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:53 am

olyelr wrote:And “level” is a bit subjective.

When these Rams are “level”, by measurement, they tend to look a bit low out back.

I have 1.5” spacers under mine, which leaves the back 3/4” or so higher still. I personally would not want the rake any less.

When I get the Thuren overland kit, I plan on adding a spacer in the back. But I will wait till I can see it and take some measurements before I get the spacer.
You'll need it. That's exacrly what happened to me. Just springs up front was fine but then when I went to the full Thuren kit I needed rhe spacer. But i actually added the spacer when I just had the front springs and the rake was nice. Just enough to give it a level appearance but reality was about 3/4 to inch of rake. On full Thuren with Kings I have about a half inch of rake which is a level appearance. Keep in mind that is with Ramboxes full of recovery gear. Snow chains, 30 foot of recovery chain... shackles, snatch blocks, compressor, hi lift, etc.

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Post by olyelr » Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:44 am

TankerZak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:53 am
olyelr wrote:And “level” is a bit subjective.

When these Rams are “level”, by measurement, they tend to look a bit low out back.

I have 1.5” spacers under mine, which leaves the back 3/4” or so higher still. I personally would not want the rake any less.

When I get the Thuren overland kit, I plan on adding a spacer in the back. But I will wait till I can see it and take some measurements before I get the spacer.
You'll need it. That's exacrly what happened to me. Just springs up front was fine but then when I went to the full Thuren kit I needed rhe spacer. But i actually added the spacer when I just had the front springs and the rake was nice. Just enough to give it a level appearance but reality was about 3/4 to inch of rake. On full Thuren with Kings I have about a half inch of rake which is a level appearance. Keep in mind that is with Ramboxes full of recovery gear. Snow chains, 30 foot of recovery chain... shackles, snatch blocks, compressor, hi lift, etc.

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Gotchya. Yea my bed is completely empty 95% of the time, but my ramboxes always stay loaded up with gear. And I have bags, so when I haul heavy I use those. I want the rear up 3/4”-1” from the front for my everyday setup. Which I think will be around a 3/4”-1” spacer, going by what you guys have been telling me.
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Post by TankerZak » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:51 pm

olyelr wrote:
TankerZak wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:53 am
olyelr wrote:And “level” is a bit subjective.

When these Rams are “level”, by measurement, they tend to look a bit low out back.

I have 1.5” spacers under mine, which leaves the back 3/4” or so higher still. I personally would not want the rake any less.

When I get the Thuren overland kit, I plan on adding a spacer in the back. But I will wait till I can see it and take some measurements before I get the spacer.
You'll need it. That's exacrly what happened to me. Just springs up front was fine but then when I went to the full Thuren kit I needed rhe spacer. But i actually added the spacer when I just had the front springs and the rake was nice. Just enough to give it a level appearance but reality was about 3/4 to inch of rake. On full Thuren with Kings I have about a half inch of rake which is a level appearance. Keep in mind that is with Ramboxes full of recovery gear. Snow chains, 30 foot of recovery chain... shackles, snatch blocks, compressor, hi lift, etc.

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Gotchya. Yea my bed is completely empty 95% of the time, but my ramboxes always stay loaded up with gear. And I have bags, so when I haul heavy I use those. I want the rear up 3/4”-1” from the front for my everyday setup. Which I think will be around a 3/4”-1” spacer, going by what you guys have been telling me.
The Traxada one inch spacer worked well for me. But they did just redesign it and now it goes on the bottom of the springs instead of the top. They also will make custom spacers for nearly double the price. No idea what else is out there but BoldAdventure and I used the same spacer.

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Post by DamageWagon » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:14 pm

FYI on the 03-13 trucks, if you’re in stock springs, usually the springs have sagged out so much that those lift numbers are usually quite off. On my truck I used the 1.5” lift springs and it gave me 4” of lift.

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Re: Thuren front leveling kit

Post by txjfrosty » Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:33 pm

No worries bro. I know I have typed things on forums that made sense to me, but other misinterpreted it.

Planning to order up the kit this weekend. So hopefully I can get it installed in a week or two. I'll post up some pics after.

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I saw you had several replies that stated the same thing that you quoted from thurens site, otherwise I would have elaborated.

However, after I read what you quoted from me I realize that was quite a douche response. As much as it sounds like I was being an asshole, it absolutely was not my intention. Everybody interperits things differently... I was just simply stating that I thought Thuren did a perfect job explaining it... but again, that did nothing for the thread.

Get the 1.5” springs if you want it level, get the .5” springs if you want a rake :cheers:

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Post by txjfrosty » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:54 pm

All levelled out... looks great! :rockon:
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Post by OffroadTreks » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:00 pm

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Post by olyelr » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:43 am

So did you do just the front, or the rear too?
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Post by txjfrosty » Tue May 07, 2019 8:43 pm

Just the front.

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