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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Reloaderguy » Thu May 03, 2018 6:09 am

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If Bilsteins are junk how do Ranchos rank? Less than junk?
Ranchos are budget emulsion shocks with an expensive sticker.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Rodeoflyer » Sat May 05, 2018 12:04 pm

True dat. I've owned four vehicles with stock spec'd ranchos and they were all done within 40k miles. My bilsteins were just starting to fade when I swapped them at 50k.

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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 pm

Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by olyelr » Sun May 20, 2018 5:19 am

TankerZak wrote:
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Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
You been running your factory shocks with Thuren springs then?
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Sun May 20, 2018 9:51 am

With the Thuren front spring only. It's the correct length stock, as is the front track bar. You don't need the entire kit. Thuren rear springs and swar bar links, and Kings should be going on tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by adeluca73 » Sun May 20, 2018 1:34 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 pm
Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
You have quite the nice upgrade system moving along, nice to see.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Rodeoflyer » Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pm

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Sun May 20, 2018 9:51 am
With the Thuren front spring only. It's the correct length stock, as is the front track bar. You don't need the entire kit. Thuren rear springs and swar bar links, and Kings should be going on tomorrow or Tuesday.
This is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad :D

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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Mon May 21, 2018 5:49 pm

adeluca73 wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:34 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 pm
Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
You have quite the nice upgrade system moving along, nice to see.
Thanks, i was just thinking i shoulda done a build thread but i totally got here by "I'm not gonna do much just this one more thing..."
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Mon May 21, 2018 5:50 pm

Rodeoflyer wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 9:51 am
With the Thuren front spring only. It's the correct length stock, as is the front track bar. You don't need the entire kit. Thuren rear springs and swar bar links, and Kings should be going on tomorrow or Tuesday.
This is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad :D
Yeah, I ran through Moab like that and it worked just fine but Top of the World did beat the shit out of me... lol. Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by undersprung and overdampened? What the experience is like?
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by DamageWagon » Mon May 21, 2018 6:01 pm

Rodeoflyer wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:17 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 9:51 am
With the Thuren front spring only. It's the correct length stock, as is the front track bar. You don't need the entire kit. Thuren rear springs and swar bar links, and Kings should be going on tomorrow or Tuesday.
This is true. I ran Thuren springs and stock Bilsteins for some time..maybe 5k miles. They work but aren't 'ideal'. However, going to stage 5 kings had me in the other direction, undersprung and overdamped. That's a great thing offroad :D
Long, soft springs and leaving chassis control heavily in the hands of the dampers is a better way of putting it. Not undersprung or overdamped necessarily haha. Exactly the direction you want to go for off-road use, of course you can go too far in any direction

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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by DamageWagon » Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:49 pm
adeluca73 wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:34 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Sat May 19, 2018 11:43 pm
Did you find take off shocks yet if you'e going that route? Mine are coming off this week when my Kings go on. Nothing blown that i know of. Off a 2016 with just under 30k miles.
You have quite the nice upgrade system moving along, nice to see.
Thanks, i was just thinking i shoulda done a build thread but i totally got here by "I'm not gonna do much just this one more thing..."
Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift :drool:

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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Low_Sky » Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pm

DamageWagon wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:49 pm
adeluca73 wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 1:34 pm


You have quite the nice upgrade system moving along, nice to see.
Thanks, i was just thinking i shoulda done a build thread but i totally got here by "I'm not gonna do much just this one more thing..."
Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift :drool:
It could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm

Low_Sky wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pm
DamageWagon wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm
TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 5:49 pm


Thanks, i was just thinking i shoulda done a build thread but i totally got here by "I'm not gonna do much just this one more thing..."
Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift :drool:
It could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.
I made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Colibri » Mon May 21, 2018 7:18 pm

Hahaha ain’t it always the way, I bought a power wagon because it didn’t “need” anything lol.

In offroad racing springs are considered to be there more or less only to establish ride height. Chassis control and suspension character are all shock valving. Carli doesn’t use that tuning philosophy as far as I can tell, but Thuren sure seems too.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by Reloaderguy » Mon May 21, 2018 7:53 pm

TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm
Low_Sky wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:22 pm
DamageWagon wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:03 pm


Yeah I got my truck and thought ‘man this is the perfect truck for me, I’m not touching this one unless it needs it.’ Three months later it needed King 3.0’s and bypasses and a trackbar and a lift :drool:
It could happen to anybody. At least I resisted for three years.
I made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...
I literally ordered 37s a block down the street from the dealership on my drive home from picking up the truck.
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by BoldAdventure » Tue May 22, 2018 11:10 am

TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm

I made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...
LOL, we literally only drove halfway down the campsite road. That was expensive. :lol:
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by TankerZak » Tue May 22, 2018 12:44 pm

MikeKey wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 11:10 am
TankerZak wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 6:44 pm

I made it a year and a half and one Moab trip and one REALLY EXPENSIVE ride along in MikeKey's truck with Kings on it...
LOL, we literally only drove halfway down the campsite road. That was expensive. :lol:
After coming off that shitty Top of The World trail and then seeing how much smoother your truck was even on just that campsite trail at speed it was a no brainer... and you finished that trail like 30-45 minutes before me and i wasn't going slow!
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Re: Rear Shock Question

Post by BoldAdventure » Tue May 22, 2018 2:21 pm

We also got to the top a half hour before everyone else. Don Thuren has the Kings dialed in perfectly for my style of wheeling. They soak up all the annoying s//t on the trail.

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