So, here is my question: Do you think a 10 speed auto that was geared as follows:
1) 5.69:1
2) 4.69:1
3) 3.69:1
4) 3.0:1
5) 2.69:1
6) 2.0:1
7) 1.69:1
8) 1.0:1
9) 0.85:1
10) 0.67:1
Would get that much worse mpg than these ratio's ? http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/09/20 ... ssion.html
I do not think it would, but I DO THINK the first set of gear ratio's I posted would make make for a MUCH BETTER working/towing truck. What say you ?
Ford's 10 speed auto....
Ford's 10 speed auto....
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.
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Bill2014
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Re: Ford's 10 speed auto....
Those posted ratios are not distributed correctly for a transmission... (they're not even reasonably distributed)TwinStick wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:14 amSo, here is my question: Do you think a 10 speed auto that was geared as follows:
1) 5.69:1
2) 4.69:1
3) 3.69:1
4) 3.0:1
5) 2.69:1
6) 2.0:1
7) 1.69:1
8) 1.0:1
9) 0.85:1
10) 0.67:1
Would get that much worse mpg than these ratio's ? http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2016/09/20 ... ssion.html
I do not think it would, but I DO THINK the first set of gear ratio's I posted would make make for a MUCH BETTER working/towing truck. What say you ?
First and Second are too close
Fourth and Fifth are too close
Fifth and Sixth are too far apart
Sixth and Seventh are too close
Seventh and Eighth are too far apart
Aside from these issues, the fuel mileage would be worse for a highway vehicle - consider adding another overdrive...
We had better fire the guy that came up with those
2014 Power Wagon Laramie
Titan V5 2.5" Receiver Pintle Hook
Warn wireless winch controller
.188" DOM White Knuckle Rock Sliders
Locker Bypass & Nanny Kill Switch
Moab 2006
Titan V5 2.5" Receiver Pintle Hook
Warn wireless winch controller
.188" DOM White Knuckle Rock Sliders
Locker Bypass & Nanny Kill Switch
Moab 2006
Re: Ford's 10 speed auto....
I wish I had gears inbetween the ones I have in my truck, for HD work. That's why i was curious.
That would be SUPER for light to med duty work though. 
And...overdrive is useless on a pick up truck that tows heavy or is actually used for work, with a gas engine. Empty, yes. Loaded up, no. The only time i use 6th gear towing is going down hill or if a REALLY strong wind is at my back. I guess my experience is different. I wonder which one would up shift & downshift more ?
That would be SUPER for light to med duty work though.
And...overdrive is useless on a pick up truck that tows heavy or is actually used for work, with a gas engine. Empty, yes. Loaded up, no. The only time i use 6th gear towing is going down hill or if a REALLY strong wind is at my back. I guess my experience is different. I wonder which one would up shift & downshift more ?
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.
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Bill2014
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Re: Ford's 10 speed auto....
To get what you really want - It would be great to have a 3-speed Transfer case. Swap out the BorgWarner 44-47 to get:
Low Range (what we currently have)
Creeper Gear Highway Range (new TwinStick range
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High Range (what we currently have)
Low Range (what we currently have)
Creeper Gear Highway Range (new TwinStick range
)High Range (what we currently have)
2014 Power Wagon Laramie
Titan V5 2.5" Receiver Pintle Hook
Warn wireless winch controller
.188" DOM White Knuckle Rock Sliders
Locker Bypass & Nanny Kill Switch
Moab 2006
Titan V5 2.5" Receiver Pintle Hook
Warn wireless winch controller
.188" DOM White Knuckle Rock Sliders
Locker Bypass & Nanny Kill Switch
Moab 2006
Re: Ford's 10 speed auto....
LOL, You would think so, right ? When I towed our 10,500 lb 30' Toy Hauler, for 9 years, there was too much of a drop between most gears, (even with the G-56) even on flat land but especially on hills. We are rockin' an NV271 in our 3rd Gens. Still have a 2.72:1 Lo range in ours, vs the 2.64:1 in the current ones.
You would think so, right ? When I towed our 10,500 lb 30' Toy Hauler, for 9 years, there was too much of a drop between most gears, (even with the G-56) even on flat land but especially on hills. We are rockin' an NV271 in our 3rd Gens. Still have a 2.72:1 Lo range in ours, vs the 2.64:1 in the current ones.Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.
4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.
It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.
So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy.