New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

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New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by TwinStick » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:29 pm

Just got the March 2018 issue of P4W&OR magazine. It seems the new Rubicon will have HD-er axles, 100lbs lighter, fully boxed high strength steel frame w/5 cross members & the lockers can be engaged & disengaged on the fly up to 30 mph in 4 Lo. They also put a work-around in the sway bar disconnect....in case you want to go with 1 tons. Also, 33" tires are now standard, 35" tires can be added with only a 2" lift to get zero rubbing at full turn/full flex. Bigger rotors. A lower 1st gear in the 8 sp auto: 4.71:1 & the 6 sp manual (only avail w/3.6L Pentastar engine): 5.13:1. For the first time in History, the new Jeep Rubicon beats my G56 crawl ratio. Mine is 78:1. The new jeeps are 77.2:1 for the auto & 84.2:1 for the manual !!! Impressive indeed !!! Engines---will be 3. A 2.0L di turbocharged I-4 w/270 hp & 295 lb-ft of torque. A 3.0L V-6 EcoDiesel (2019 launch date) w/260hp & 442 lb-ft of torque. And the 3.6L Pentastar engine.

For anyone who wants to know.
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.

4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.

It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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Re: New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by 13BlkPowerWagon » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:10 am

I am seriously going to consider the Scrambler version of this when it comes out... I find myself needing to tow heavy less and less, and my neighbor will let me use his 1-ton Chevy anytime I want so long as I let him use my dump trailer whenever he wants.

The new Scrambler will supposedly pull 6,500lb with the diesel. Plenty for my usual needs. If it comes in a Rubicon package, it's basically going to be a mini Power Wagon, sans winch (most likely). It'll probably be just as expensive, but smaller, and a hell of a lot better on fuel. Plus, if it comes in a convertible, the dogs won't want to ever get out of the thing!

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Post by TwinStick » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:31 pm

All Wrangler based Jeeps are convertibles, aren't they ? Just take the doors off, roof off & fold down the front windshield when off-road. Doors should still come off, even if roof don't. Wonder what rear axle will come with that 6500 lb tow rating ?
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.

4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.

It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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Re: New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by 13BlkPowerWagon » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:45 am

Yeah, but no one knows what the roof is going to be on the new truck version... I'm hoping it's like the old CJ-8, with a short, easily removed hardtop (although this one will only be available in a 4 door apparently), and the option for a soft top/bikini. The doors should certainly be removable, just gotta worry about side mirrors when you take them off (not like the old CJ's where they mounted to the windshield hinges).

There was a picture floating around of the CAD drawing for the rear end... it's not a Dana 60, or a 10.5", but that's the size range it's in, so it could just be a slightly modified version of either of those. It's definitely bigger than the D44, or 9.25" (which would still be more than capable of towing 6500lb).

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Re: New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by TwinStick » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:06 pm

Holy shit....... Look at minute 3:58 for the JK price........then look at minute 12:53 for the JL price !!! :jawdrop: No winch, no dual alts, only tows 3500 lbs (4 door) & 2000 lbs (2door). Add a winch & you are squarely in PW price territory !!! :jawdrop:
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.

4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.

It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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Re: New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by RustyPW » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:51 pm

There isn't much price difference bewteen a JK (or whatever they are calling it) and a Grand Cherokee. Unless you are talking about a SRT or the TrackHawk. :jawdrop:
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Re: New Jeep seems to actually be improved.......

Post by TwinStick » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:39 pm

Wonder what the diesel & it's required transmission would add to that $52,050 price tag of that white 2018 JL Rubicon in the video ?
Traded to 2019 ZR2, Red.

4Runner was a GREAT vehicle but could not even tow our 6x10 enclosed utility trailer comfortably, even when it was empty-ish.

It was time. Truck was still leaking BADLY every time it rained or snowed & melted. It was leaking at every single gasket (rear window, front window, all 4 doors). You could sit inside & watch it run down the inside of windshield, rear window & drip off the upper side door beams. It was molding on the inside & starting to stink. Needed new steering gearbox, shocks, new upgraded T-style steering, tires, brake lines, d/s manifold bolts that are barely recognizable due to rust-removed & replaced. Everyone around here would not even touch em once they looked at them.

So, say what you will. PW turned into a money pit. Was no longer a joy to drive. Hoping that this downsized 4x4 with lockers will fill the bill & have minimal problems, but..... As long as manufacturers keep making engineers design things that fail soon after warranty is up, we are going nowhere fast. Regardless of what you buy. :rockon:

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