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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby Reloaderguy » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:37 pm

adeluca73 wrote:
DamageWagon wrote:I thought shot placement and loading procedures were the major takeaways from the Miami shootout. And having comms so the only two agents with body armor and MP-5's aren't busy banging a waitress two miles down the street when your guys are getting killed by dudes with .223 Rugers...


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Not entirely. Yes, the investigation revealed reloading revolvers under duress was problematic, and yes, only some were wearing light body armor, and only a few of the cars had riot shotguns, however the assaialant with the Ruger Ranch rifle was shot 10+ times, he continued to fight between 5 & 6 min after sustaining the first shot, which the forensic coroner stated was the actual lethal shot, but lack of penetration permitted him to continue fighting, firing 45-50 shots, seriously wounding 4 Agents, 2 mortally. Thus the lack of ballistic penetration & poor bullet homogeneity in close quarters pistol exchanges, through bone, light fabrics, and sheet metal doors led inexorably to the development of a new pistol cartridge, spawning the S&W 10mm & 1076 semi auto pistol. A gun that doubled standard revolver capacities & has the terminal ballistics in a 180gr rnd near that of a 145gr .357mag---its pretty bad ass.


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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby cruz » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:41 pm

adeluca73 wrote:The power of 3, love it!!


Up until recently I only had six. After a friends passing, his widow gave me a 1930 J.P. Sauer and Sohn 7.65mm -.32ACP pistol, a 1944 Steyr-Daimler-Puch Mauser 98 converted into a sporter in Rem. 7mm mag. and a WWII M1 .30 carbine made by IBM Corp. 8-)
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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby adeluca73 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:37 pm

cruz wrote:
adeluca73 wrote:The power of 3, love it!!


Up until recently I only had six. After a friends passing, his widow gave me a 1930 J.P. Sauer and Sohn 7.65mm -.32ACP pistol, a 1944 Steyr-Daimler-Puch Mauser 98 converted into a sporter in Rem. 7mm mag. and a WWII M1 .30 carbine made by IBM Corp. 8-)


Those are some unique guns--but the pièce de'resistánce is that IBM M1.30car, if you ever get tired of it Cruz, please remember you're uncle Tony!!! :D
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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby RustyPW » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:42 pm

On the 10mm. Some Fed depts have used a MP-5 chambered for the 10mm. Called the MP-5-10. My neighbor had one issued to him for awhile. Wish he wasn't retired now. He could get some strange ammo from the gov't. :lol: Like 357 rounds loaded with lightweight aluminum bullets that would not penetrate the skin of an aircraft. 12ga. shells loaded with a bunch of little flechettes. :shock:
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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby adeluca73 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:41 pm

Reloaderguy wrote:
adeluca73 wrote:
Not entirely. Yes, the investigation revealed reloading revolvers under duress was problematic, and yes, only some were wearing light body armor, and only a few of the cars had riot shotguns, however the assaialant with the Ruger Ranch rifle was shot 10+ times, he continued to fight between 5 & 6 min after sustaining the first shot, which the forensic coroner stated was the actual lethal shot, but lack of penetration permitted him to continue fighting, firing 45-50 shots, seriously wounding 4 Agents, 2 mortally. Thus the lack of ballistic penetration & poor bullet homogeneity in close quarters pistol exchanges, through bone, light fabrics, and sheet metal doors led inexorably to the development of a new pistol cartridge, spawning the S&W 10mm & 1076 semi auto pistol. A gun that doubled standard revolver capacities & has the terminal ballistics in a 180gr rnd near that of a 145gr .357mag---its pretty bad ass.


Cash me ousside, how bow dat!

G20 KKM 4.6"
180gr GDHP 1.265"
Starline virgin brass
9.5gr (+/-.02) LongShot
CCI 300
AVG 1254 FPS
ES 9.86
SD 4.12

Backed down .5gr from 1300FPS.


G40...factory loads, no dies yet, only a few yrs old, we're still getting properly acquainted :wink:

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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby adeluca73 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:45 pm

RustyPW wrote:On the 10mm. Some Fed depts have used a MP-5 chambered for the 10mm. Called the MP-5-10. My neighbor had one issued to him for awhile. Wish he wasn't retired now. He could get some strange ammo from the gov't. :lol: Like 357 rounds loaded with lightweight aluminum bullets that would not penetrate the skin of an aircraft. 12ga. shells loaded with a bunch of little flechettes. :shock:


Imagine 105mm howitzer rounds fill with 3" flachettes. When arty units are getting overrun, the fire control sgt orders "GUNS TO 0 (deg inclination), flachettes, fire at will" , some f'd up photos in the West Point museum during Vietnam when units were overrun...lots of VC stapled to trees, bbls melted, 100% losses.
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Re: savage lrp 6.5 creedmor

Postby RustyPW » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:16 am

adeluca73 wrote:
RustyPW wrote:On the 10mm. Some Fed depts have used a MP-5 chambered for the 10mm. Called the MP-5-10. My neighbor had one issued to him for awhile. Wish he wasn't retired now. He could get some strange ammo from the gov't. :lol: Like 357 rounds loaded with lightweight aluminum bullets that would not penetrate the skin of an aircraft. 12ga. shells loaded with a bunch of little flechettes. :shock:


Imagine 105mm howitzer rounds fill with 3" flachettes. When arty units are getting overrun, the fire control sgt orders "GUNS TO 0 (deg inclination), flachettes, fire at will" , some f'd up photos in the West Point museum during Vietnam when units were overrun...lots of VC stapled to trees, bbls melted, 100% losses.

I seen it. :jawdrop: Used to work for the DoD back in the late '70's. Seen a lot of weird and strange stuff that we were testing back then. :jawdrop: :secret: :digahole: :patriot:
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