No lights in the Locker Knob.

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No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:55 pm

About 2 weeks ago. Went to use the lockers. No lights in the locker indicator knob, or the swaybar disconnect. So I think there is no power there. Checked all the fuses. All good. Also there is no 4wheel service light. The funny thing, my low tire pressure warning light is off now. I have no sensors in my tires. So that light has been on for years. Now it's out. It went out about the same time as my lockers. :roll: I still have to check the plug behind the kick panel.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:20 am

RustyPW wrote:
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I still have to check the plug behind the kick panel.
Those are some odd symptoms.
If you're looking for the #C137 locker plug/connector, it's under the dash between the parking brake assembly and where the clutch pedal would be. Image
It might be time to make use of that lifetime warranty. :popcorn:

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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by Bill2014 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:40 am

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
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RustyPW wrote:
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I still have to check the plug behind the kick panel.
Those are some odd symptoms.
If you're looking for the #C137 locker plug/connector, it's under the dash between the parking brake assembly and where the clutch pedal would be. Image
It might be time to make use of that lifetime warranty. :popcorn:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:04 pm

Too cold and wet to look at it right now. It goes to the dealer Monday afternoon. They just got done fixing my TrailHawk. Had to replace the brake booster.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:32 pm

Updating this.

The lockers are fixed. Took the PW into the dealer today. They used a scanner and it couldn't communicate with the FDCM. They checked the wiring at the TIPM.. Had no power coming out. Said it was a connector there that had a bad pin. They redid the connection and now everything is working. Said if it happens again. The wiring may need replacing. Cost me $94.00 today.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm

Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by olyelr » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:56 pm

RustyPW wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
Seems like I just saw one for sale on this forum. Cant remember the year though.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by Mule007 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:23 pm

Was in parts for sale, was new not installed, think it was for a ‘15
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:46 pm

olyelr wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:56 pm
RustyPW wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
Seems like I just saw one for sale on this forum. Cant remember the year though.
It's for a '15. Don't think it will fit a '08.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:32 am

RustyPW wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
Isn't your truck covered by a lifetime warranty? If they try to tell you that the warranty is only for the drivetrain, they need to understand that the Final Drive Control Module is the sway bar and that it controls the drivetrain and is an integral part of it. :box:

Here's one for $897.07. Part # 68193519aa

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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:34 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:32 am
RustyPW wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
Isn't your truck covered by a lifetime warranty? If they try to tell you that the warranty is only for the drivetrain, they need to understand that the Final Drive Control Module is the sway bar and that it controls the drivetrain and is an integral part of it. :box:

Here's one for $897.07. Part # 68193519aa
Forgot about that. Thanks. :rockon:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:32 pm

Talked to the service adviser today about trying to get the smartbar covered under my lifetime powertrain warranty. No dice. He said that they tried to get it covered, but Ram said no. Reason being that the module controls the swaybar and it's mounted on the swaybar. I said the my lockers are covered under the warranty, and now they don't work without the module. So the module should be covered. He agreed with me, but got shot down by Ram. :box:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by olyelr » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:36 am

RustyPW wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:32 pm
Talked to the service adviser today about trying to get the smartbar covered under my lifetime powertrain warranty. No dice. He said that they tried to get it covered, but Ram said no. Reason being that the module controls the swaybar and it's mounted on the swaybar. I said the my lockers are covered under the warranty, and now they don't work without the module. So the module should be covered. He agreed with me, but got shot down by Ram. :box:
Well, since your lockers are covered and not working, take it in and tell them to get them working lol.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:49 pm

olyelr wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:36 am
RustyPW wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:32 pm
Talked to the service adviser today about trying to get the smartbar covered under my lifetime powertrain warranty. No dice. He said that they tried to get it covered, but Ram said no. Reason being that the module controls the swaybar and it's mounted on the swaybar. I said the my lockers are covered under the warranty, and now they don't work without the module. So the module should be covered. He agreed with me, but got shot down by Ram. :box:
Well, since your lockers are covered and not working, take it in and tell them to get them working lol.
I tried to get the module covered under the warranty. No dice.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by olyelr » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:30 pm

RustyPW wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:49 pm
olyelr wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:36 am
RustyPW wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:32 pm
Talked to the service adviser today about trying to get the smartbar covered under my lifetime powertrain warranty. No dice. He said that they tried to get it covered, but Ram said no. Reason being that the module controls the swaybar and it's mounted on the swaybar. I said the my lockers are covered under the warranty, and now they don't work without the module. So the module should be covered. He agreed with me, but got shot down by Ram. :box:
Well, since your lockers are covered and not working, take it in and tell them to get them working lol.
I tried to get the module covered under the warranty. No dice.
:D play dumb dumb. Work the system. :D

Walk in. Let them know your lockers dont work. They are covered under the warranty that you paind ever so dearly for. And you want them working.
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Post by olyelr » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:41 pm

Twinstick would get them covered, and hed have a loaner vehicle to boot :lol:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:50 pm

olyelr wrote:
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Twinstick would get them covered, and hed have a loaner vehicle to boot :lol:
No kidding. He would have them beating each other with old heater hose when he got done cussing. :lol:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:47 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:32 am
RustyPW wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:50 pm
Well.........this didn't last long. The lights went out again. The dealer traced the problem back to the smartbar. There is no power coming out. Dealer wants $1,200 for a new bar. Anyone has a good place to get one.
Isn't your truck covered by a lifetime warranty? If they try to tell you that the warranty is only for the drivetrain, they need to understand that the Final Drive Control Module is the sway bar and that it controls the drivetrain and is an integral part of it. :box:

Here's one for $897.07. Part # 68193519aa
I checked on this today. This is a plain swaybar. It's not a smartbar. For a smartbar for my PW. The PN is 52121754AF. List price is $2,770. The website has it for $1809.40. There is only 5 left in the states. 4 in the warehouse and 1 at a dealership in Co.

https://www.moparautopartsdirect.com/oe ... 52121754af
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Post by trk4sale » Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:50 am

You could add the EVO manual or air actuated swaybar disconnect and hardwire the lockers for a lot less $.
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Post by Pit Slave » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:43 pm

Do they know exactly the fault? Did the fuse blow again? Did they do a wire conduction test?

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Post by OffroadTreks » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:46 pm

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You could add the EVO manual or air actuated swaybar disconnect and hardwire the lockers for a lot less $.
A LOT LESS. And it's more reliable. :rockon:
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:59 pm

Pit Slave wrote:
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Do they know exactly the fault? Did the fuse blow again? Did they do a wire conduction test?

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The fuse never blew. First time said that it it was a bad connection at the plug. The power wire was coming out and they redid it. The 2nd time, they said it module it's self is bad. Meaning the circuit board.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:21 pm

I’m working on building a locker bypass that will power and use the factory dash knob without a functional sway bar. If I’m successful you can return the unit you already have and I’ll retrofit it with the new wires and components required free of charge. I should know more by the end of next week.

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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by olyelr » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:44 pm

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I’m working on building a locker bypass that will power and use the factory dash knob without a functional sway bar. If I’m successful you can return the unit you already have and I’ll retrofit it with the new wires and components required free of charge. I should know more by the end of next week.
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Re: No lights in the Locker Knob.

Post by RustyPW » Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:32 pm

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:21 pm
I’m working on building a locker bypass that will power and use the factory dash knob without a functional sway bar. If I’m successful you can return the unit you already have and I’ll retrofit it with the new wires and components required free of charge. I should know more by the end of next week.
I would give you a big kiss....but you're not my type. :lol:
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