Locker Bypass Rebirth

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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by Low_Sky » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:33 pm

jsims006 wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm
I wonder what safety garbage actually makes locking such a pain. Like what are the conditions and why are they there? I agree you normally wouldnt use lockers until you need them, but by then its too late to engage since you have to be on flat ground, turning in a circle, opening the back door and the hood at the same time, press the left blinker 3 times, etc.

so silly imo
4LO. Under 3 mph. The rear has to be locked before the front will start trying to lock (you can still turn the switch direct from "unlock" to "fr/rr"). The mechanisms themselves may (almost always do) require some differential action to lock. It's in your owner's manual.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by Bill2014 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:32 pm

In addition to what is in the manual (which is included below), you can deduce that there can not be more than a 6 mph speed differential between the wheels, which is accomplished by the 3 mph limit to engage locking :D

With our bypasses, the actuator will be powered to engage all the time, even if there is a large speed difference between the wheels. :jawdrop:

From "Owners" Manual:
This vehicle is equipped with electronically locking front and rear differentials. These differentials, when engaged, mechanically lock together the axle shafts forcing the wheels to spin at an equal rate. This allows the vehicle to maintain its momentum and prevents it from becoming stuck. The locking front and rear differentials should only be engaged during low-speed, extreme off-road situations where one wheel is likely to not be in contact with the ground. It is not recommended to drive the vehicle with the differentials locked on pavement due to the reduced ability to turn and speed limitations.
CAUTION!
• Do not lock the front or rear axle on hard surfaced roads. The ability to steer the vehicle is reduced and damage to the drivetrain may occur when the axles are locked on hard surfaced roads.
• Do not try to lock the rear axle if the vehicle is stuck and the tires are spinning. You can damage drivetrain components. Lock the rear axle before attempting situations or navigating terrain, which could possibly cause the vehicle to become stuck.

The locking axles are controlled by the axle locker switch. The switch has three positions, AXLE UNLOCK, REAR LOCK, and FRONT/REAR LOCK. Under normal driving conditions, the switch should be left in the AXLE UNLOCK position. In the AXLE UNLOCK position, the front and rear axles are unlocked. In the REAR LOCK position, the rear axle is locked. In the FRONT/REAR LOCK position, the front and rear axles are locked.

NOTE: Even when the axles are in the AXLE UNLOCK position, the limited slip differential in the rear axle still provides torque biasing capability for moderate low traction environments.

During the command to lock the axle, the indicator light will flash until the axle is locked. After the lock command has been successfully executed, the light will remain on solid. To lock the rear axle, place the vehicle in 4LO. Refer to “Four Wheel Drive Operation” in “Starting and Operating” for further information. Move the axle locker switch position to REAR LOCK while traveling less than 3 mph (5 km/h). The RR indicator light will remain on when the rear axle is locked.

NOTE: Left to right wheel speed difference may be necessary to allow the axle to fully lock. If the indicator light is flashing after placing the switch in the REAR LOCK or FRONT/REAR LOCK position, drive the vehicle in a turn or on loose gravel to expedite the locking action.

WARNING!
Do not use the locked axle position for normal driving. A locked front axle is intended for off-road driving only. Locking the front axle during on-road driving will reduce the steering ability. This could cause a collision and you may be seriously injured. To lock the front axle; move the axle locker switch to FRONT/REAR LOCK while traveling less than 3 mph (5 km/h). The indicator light will be solid when the front axle is locked.

NOTE: The rear axle must be locked before the front axle will lock. To unlock the front axle; move the axle locker switch to REAR LOCK. The FRONT/REAR LOCK indicator light will go out when the axle is unlocked.

NOTE: The axle lockers could be torque locked due to side to side loads on the axle. Driving slowly while turning the steering wheel from a left hand turn to a right hand turn or driving in REVERSE for a short distance may be required to release the torque lock and unlock the axles.

To unlock the rear axle; move the axle locker switch to AXLE UNLOCK. The REAR LOCK indicator light will go out when the rear axle is unlocked.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by jsims006 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:28 pm

Well specifically what I meant was why the safety features exist when you still cant lock it down and disconnect even after meeting them.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by Bill2014 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:55 pm

jsims006 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:28 pm
Well specifically what I meant was why the safety features exist when you still cant lock it down and disconnect even after meeting them.
When all the criteria in the logic is satisfied, the locker will be energized to engage (your light(s) will still be blinking). When alignment takes place, AND the locker is energized, AND the locking mechanism is not bound up and can move, the dog ring pushes towards the locking slide gear and the axle shafts are locked together. Once this happens, the locker light remains on solid confirming that you are locked.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by jsims006 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:21 am

Bill2014 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:55 pm
jsims006 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:28 pm
Well specifically what I meant was why the safety features exist when you still cant lock it down and disconnect even after meeting them.
When all the criteria in the logic is satisfied, the locker will be energized to engage (your light(s) will still be blinking). When alignment takes place, AND the locker is energized, AND the locking mechanism is not bound up and can move, the dog ring pushes towards the locking slide gear and the axle shafts are locked together. Once this happens, the locker light remains on solid confirming that you are locked.
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Yeah I understand how e-lockers work. I just dont understand why the ram logic is so intrusive. Theo nly thinig I can think of is for warranty coverage. So lets make it aggravating to engage and force everyone to use fortune tellers before they go out in the woods first.

In any case I just got my able bypass so I wont have to deal with that anymore.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by jeffisphree » Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:08 pm

Will this bypass work on a 2019?

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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:34 pm

jeffisphree wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:08 pm
Will this bypass work on a 2019?
No, the 19's don't need it. Ram finally allowed locker function in all transfer case ranges starting this year. I haven't heard a single complaint yet regarding locker engagement on the new trucks.

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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by olyelr » Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:04 am

Retired BLM Rig wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:34 pm
jeffisphree wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:08 pm
Will this bypass work on a 2019?
No, the 19's don't need it. Ram finally allowed locker function in all transfer case ranges starting this year. I haven't heard a single complaint yet regarding locker engagement on the new trucks.
Maybe with the new switches/setup/design they finally got it figured out.
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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by cb1987 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:56 pm

blm i had a question on the bypass. using it yesterday in 4hi the rear locked as normal. after turning the knob to front /rear at a very slow speed the front seemed to lock as normal but there was a rapid clicking sound from the front passenger side, presumably under the hood where the box is located. the clicking didnt stay constant and slowed then got more rapid. after a minute or so it seemed to stop. is the clicking a sign that the relays need adjusted on the front ? honestly i didnt check the adjustment at install, so maybe it was on the borderline needing adjusted

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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:47 am

Yes, that's a sure sign that it's time to make an adjustment. The procedure is simple and outlined on page #6 of the installation instruction. If you need me to send you another copy of the instructions, just say the word.

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Re: Locker Bypass Rebirth

Post by cb1987 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:29 am

thnanks ive got the manual. the bypass sure beats the hell out of the crap stock system :lol:

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