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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by olyelr » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:37 pm

BoldAdventure wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:20 am
This video series has been really informative.
Yes, I agree. Very neat to watch. I am really intrigued to see the results of the next episode, with actual diff temps for each scenario.
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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by RustyPW » Thu Oct 04, 2018 6:07 pm

I was wondering about my RockCrusher diff covers. Found some pictures when I installed them. I can see the higher fill hole. :shock: The inside shape is close the the factory. Just changed the fluids in both diffs back in June. 3 qts in the front and 6 qts in the rear. Thinking on taking some out.
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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by Longbomber » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:16 am

I think you will see banks come out with a new cover, extra capacity and finned but with a windage tray inside to keep the oil flow directed along the ring gear.
Not much doubt that a finned cover reduces temps, but the flow of the oil could be much smoother.

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by TwinStick » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:49 am

First off, I think we all know that soon after, he will offer his solution to this age old issue.

Diff temp does seem to be more of an issue these days, because of the electronic lockers (and the plastic parts used in them that are exposed to the hot fluid) that are available these days, not just in Power Wagons either.

Second, I do enjoy his vids, but honestly, you still can't see how much oil is or is not being slung onto the pinion gear or its bearings. I would sure like someone to explain why there have been so many "pinion bearing failures due to lack of lubrication" if the factory fill level and diff cover is the "better/best way to go", because i am at a loss for any other explanation.

My rear locker issue was with the stock cover. If I would have had my Mag-Hytec on, no doubt that they would have blamed me/it & void the warranty.
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G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by TwinStick » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:51 am

Based on the videos so far, it seems that the only way to go would be an actual diff oil cooler with hoses & a electric pump.

And, doing that, in and of itself, presents another whole host of issues specifically for us Power Wagon owners.
1) If that pump fails, your f***ed, it runs every time the truck runs.
2) If the hoses get snagged on anything, your f***ed.
3) Where to mount if spare tire is in it's stock location ?
4) How do all those 90 degree bends in hose fittings affect oil flow ?
5) How much more oil do you need in the diff to keep the oil at the proper level while driving it down the road ?
6) Can the pump run dry with no issues ?---Like when slowly going down a long steep hill off-road ?
In WNY State. 2008 Red QC PW G56. No lift yet, stock size tires. It pulls an 18' 2016 Starcraft AR One Extreme, 3500 lbs.
Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by KevinABQ » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:03 pm

You could drive the pump off the ring gear. Not sure that is a good idea. but it's right there. The issue that a damaged hose/radiator empties the diff is a problem. But you can use SS piping vs hoses and can shield anything with careful design and enough metal. Whether it makes any sense to go to that effort is another question.
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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by DamageWagon » Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:31 pm

I love these problems. The problem isn’t the problem, it’s the lack of a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

So now we can all mind fuck a solution until we give up and agree there isn’t a problem that needs solving. But Gale told us there wasn’t a solution... so we had to mind fuck it to find a solution to the lack of a problem.

lol

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by olyelr » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:09 pm

Bahahahahaha.
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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by Low_Sky » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:04 am

Looking for a diff oil cooler bypass for my 2015 PW, if anybody makes one.


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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by DamageWagon » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:08 am

Low_Sky wrote:Looking for a diff oil cooler bypass for my 2015 PW, if anybody makes one.


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It’s right on the diff cover. Takes a 3/8” square drive.

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by TwinStick » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:57 pm

Maybe after this series, he will come out with some video's that say low gearing is just a waste of money too ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRBbh6-eGU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYWyJoV2o6U
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Load Pro 35 helper springs. 2015 A.R.E. MX Series custom cap. PCP front diff cover protector. Mag-Hytec 6 qt rear diff cover. K&N replacement air filter only. Dual grounded throttle body. Winch TPC bypass. Fab Four rear bumper. DURA BAK lined rocker protection. And a bunch of new front end stuff.

G-56 Gear ratios: 1st) 6.29:1 2nd) 3.48:1 3rd) 2.10:1 4th) 1.38:1 5th) 1.0:1 6th) 0.79:1 Rev 6.29:1 --- = 78.01613:1 Crawl Ratio
-------------------------5.94:1--------3.28:1-------1.98:1-------1.31:1-------1.0:1-------0.74:1-----5.42:1 ---- = 73.675:1
545RFE----------------3.0:1---------1.67:1--------1.0:1--------0.75:1-------0.67:1------------------3.0:1 -------=37.21:1

2013+ 32.47 crawl ratio...............Can you see the trend ??????????????

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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by Retired BLM Rig » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:56 pm

I did a fluid service on an old Chevy 12 bolt LSD this week and thanks to this video series by Banks, I couldn't help but notice the unique shape of the factory cover. It has a channel formed into it to help direct oil to the axle tubes, increasing lubrication to the axle shaft and carrier bearings. I've serviced a lot of diffs in my day, but never paid attention to this feature before.

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The arrows show the holes that receive the extra lube.
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Re: Diff Temp video

Post by DamageWagon » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:43 am

That’s unique!! Thanks for posting up dude

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