Tranny Guard for ≤'13 Power Wagon

[SimonandSimonBeast]

How many people on here would buy a tranny / cross over pipe guard for a ≤ 2013 Power Wagon if somebody actually made one?

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[ghaugo]

I would probably take one.

[RustyPW]

Check with DamagedWagon. He might have a few. He was making them.

[Retired BLM Rig]

Check with DamagedWagon. He might have a few. He was making them.

His only fits 2014-2018.

If someone would make one for a 3rd Gen, I would buy it.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

Yes, the topic is ≤13. I've been in touch with Marcus. No pre '14 for early 4th or 3rd gens, and no plans to develop one. That's why I am checking interest. The rest of the Wagon's underside is pretty well protected. It's beyond me why the tranny would be left so exposed. Maybe an outpouring of interest would influence somebody to develop it.

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[RustyPW]

Check with DamagedWagon. He might have a few. He was making them.

His only fits 2014-2018.

If someone would make one for a 3rd Gen, I would buy it.

Same here.

[13powerwagon]

I would buy one for a 13.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

Is that it? What gives guys? Get under your damn truck and look how vulnerable the tranny pan and exhaust cross over is, and chime in please!!!

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[RustyPW]

I've never have hit my tranny pan or the cross over. But have destroyed the 3 bars under there.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

I've never have hit my tranny pan or the cross over. But have destroyed the 3 bars under there.

Maple Off-road makes a nice replacement for that.

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[RustyPW]

I've never have hit my tranny pan or the cross over. But have destroyed the 3 bars under there.

Maple Off-road makes a nice replacement for that.

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They came out with that after I placed the bars.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

I've never have hit my tranny pan or the cross over. But have destroyed the 3 bars under there.

Maple Off-road makes a nice replacement for that.

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They came out with that after I placed the bars.

You need to smash them again so you get the Maple one....lol

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[EasyDoesIt]

If you want more traction, try posting some pics or drawings of your prototype, this is the internet... people like pretty pictures.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

If you want more traction, try posting some pics or drawings of your prototype, this is the internet... people like pretty pictures.

I want one just like the one Dethloff's, but for an earlier model. He cuts off at '14. So, no need to reengineer the main part of his guard, it must mount differently up front. Maybe due to location of 4 link vs radius arms on the frame. So, essentially I would be drawing a picture of his and say make it fit my '13. I'm half tempted to order his 14+ and tear into it in order to mod it to fit the '13. Hmmm.

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[DamageWagon]

I prototyped the 03-13 trucks and they are a pain in the butt. The mounting methods just aren’t there and it was going to be a lot more expensive to make the skid plates, and with a much smaller demand. Additionally I was trying to make the skid plate work for the diesels, which make things VERY difficult with their trans cooler lines.

I know exactly how I will make the skid plate if I get the time to finish it, but it’s hard to see them being a profitable move when they’re going to be more labor intensive, cost more, and have only a tiny fraction of the market. It’s unfortunate but the 2013 is almost 8 model years old now.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

I prototyped the 03-13 trucks and they are a pain in the butt. The mounting methods just aren’t there and it was going to be a lot more expensive to make the skid plates, and with a much smaller demand. Additionally I was trying to make the skid plate work for the diesels, which make things VERY difficult with their trans cooler lines.

I know exactly how I will make the skid plate if I get the time to finish it, but it’s hard to see them being a profitable move when they’re going to be more labor intensive, cost more, and have only a tiny fraction of the market. It’s unfortunate but the 2013 is almost 8 model years old now.

Hi Marcus,. I get what your laying down. I wonder just how small the market is since I see a lot of people still wheeling these rigs around and we must be spending enough for outfits like Thuren and Carli to still be making stuff for us. Mine is 60k miles young. That's why I started this thread. Somebody's got to be an advocate for us guys. I've been under there poking around. I can see the forward mounting does appear to be a challenge in keeping clearance with suspension, front driveshaft, etc, while maintaining strong geometry. So, if you did come out with it, you would be keeping the "vintage" group happy! Can we call them vintage yet?

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[DamageWagon]

There’s a lot of these trucks out there. The problems are that guys with older trucks don’t invest in them, the money they would invest frequently goes to repairs, and there’s fewer of them. I probably sell 15:1 suspension parts for 14-present vs 03-13 trucks. There is a market, the question is always where best the time is spent. I have a long list of complicated things to bring out. Part of it is just supporting an enthusiast group because it’s fun

[SimonandSimonBeast]

There’s a lot of these trucks out there. The problems are that guys with older trucks don’t invest in them, the money they would invest frequently goes to repairs, and there’s fewer of them. I probably sell 15:1 suspension parts for 14-present vs 03-13 trucks. There is a market, the question is always where best the time is spent. I have a long list of complicated things to bring out. Part of it is just supporting an enthusiast group because it’s fun

Btw:. This goes counter to my thought process. I only buy used now. I feel I have been successful at buying used smart. I look for a little higher years, lower miles (max around 50 k), and we'll kept, with the expectation I'm going to mod. There are so many mall crawler, pavement queens, 2nd vehicle for a rich person, rich person traded in for the next model vehicles out there. I bought my '13 2 yrs ago w/ only 37 k miles on it. Extremely clean. I object to paying for first owner depreciation, semi-useless warranty because steelership's reluctance to fix problems under warranty. God forbid they do enough repairs that they have to legally report a recall. Then there is the concern that I will void or at least run into difficulties getting a fix under warranty after I mod the truck up. I have none of these concerns with a used truck. It is my opinion that a slightly aged truck is a perfect specimen for modding, and annual repairs are usually cheaper than a year worth of car payments. It's a project, not an investment. Again, just my thought process/opinion. Not trying to push this on anybody. I'll probably replace this '13 with a '24 in 2028....lol.

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[DamageWagon]

Financially it is almost always more feasible to buy a used truck and then modify and repair it and still come out on top vs buying new. However it just seems to not usually end up that way. There are some guys that follow through with it, but it’s so common for guys to buy a ‘lifetime truck’, make a lot of mods to it, and then sell it and buy a new one because the new trucks are so much nicer than their ‘03 or whatever.

[JRHPWRWAGON06]

I would buy one for my 2006. I am always amazed at the lack of protection there when I crawl under the truck.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

I would buy one for my 2006. I am always amazed at the lack of protection there when I crawl under the truck.

Thanks for chiming in. Yes, it is amazing one of the most expensive and delicate areas are left unprotected. Not to mention environmental impact if you drain your tranny pan on the trail.

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[JRHPWRWAGON06]

I ordered a Maple Offroad 3 bar skid plate replacement $$$. That should show I have serious interest in wanting tranny protection for early 3G Power Wagon.

[13powerwagon]

Your best bet is finding a local shop to make you a “one off” unit, or bother Maple offroad, he may look into it if there is enough interest showed. Only problem with the latter is Maple and Marcus are friends and since Maple (who is a real standup guy) doesn't want to step on any toes, it may never happen.

[SimonandSimonBeast]

Your best bet is finding a local shop to make you a “one off” unit, or bother Maple offroad, he may look into it if there is enough interest showed. Only problem with the latter is Maple and Marcus are friends and since Maple “who is a real standup guy” doesn't want to step on any toes, it may never happen.

Yes, I realized the connection between the two. I did chirp Maple but didn't hear back. I do have my eye on some of his stuff. I'm liking his sliders and 3 bar replacement skid plate.

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[DamageWagon]

Real early to say how things will go, but based on a current design for the diesels, I might have the hard part of the design tackled before even touching the 03-13 trucks due to one commonality between them. I don’t have an earlier truck here to measure anymore though so...