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3rd Gen PW question

Post by zooroadbaja » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:15 pm

Ive been looking for a 3rd gen PW and doing some research on the side, some of the things ive read were after market winches are better, locker sway bar switch goes out so replacing sway bar and rewiring lockers. With all that being said would i be better off buying a regular 2500 and adding a bumper, winch, rear locker, and carli lift? Hope that makes sense.

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by PWJouster » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:36 am

regular 2500s most likely will not have front locker
factory winch is perfectly fine, but the factory thermal protection and power delivery may not be ideal-rewire it
so many people hardwire their lockers anyway, but the swaybar is another factor..most go manual disco which is easy and cheap. and reliable.

Gearing is another concern for you, along with the actual transfer case. Did you expect to go with the same gen either way?
you came here for a reason... stick to it, or these factors are not critical for you anyway.

a fully functioning PW will be 10x easier then turning any ordinary ram into one. Plus, you get a manual range selector lever.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by pdavey » Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:08 am

The majority of issues you hear about the Power Wagon’s electronics have to do with the safety crap that gets put on the truck because it is a production vehicle.

I agree with PWJouster about getting the PW as the base will make it easier. The truck is built well and has all of the parts you would want on it with a little electrical work and some suspension upgrades.


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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by zooroadbaja » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:03 am

Hard to find a reasonably priced power wagon. The ones I’ve seen are 16-20+ and a comparable non pew is 12-14. Leaves me 5k to put into it.

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:03 am

zooroadbaja wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:03 am
Hard to find a reasonably priced power wagon. The ones I’ve seen are 16-20+ and a comparable non pew is 12-14. Leaves me 5k to put into it.
If you get a non PW. Your 5,000 will be gone just in gears, lockers and labor. Just get a PW and be ahead in the game. Find one with working lockers and a winch. A lot of owners will sell the winch by it's self just before getting rid of the PW. :angry:

Get a set of Carli or Thuren front 3" springs, front control arms, Thuren rear spring shackles, and good set of shocks, 35" tires. You will be amazed at where you can go.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by pdavey » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:16 am

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by coder » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:03 pm

zooroadbaja wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:15 pm
Ive been looking for a 3rd gen PW and doing some research on the side, some of the things ive read were after market winches are better, locker sway bar switch goes out so replacing sway bar and rewiring lockers. With all that being said would i be better off buying a regular 2500 and adding a bumper, winch, rear locker, and carli lift? Hope that makes sense.
Hello zooroadbaja, where are you located? I've been thinking about selling my PW it has everything you're looking for and is in excellent condition inside, outside and mechanically.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by olyelr » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:08 pm

Now thats a nice looking pw right there, coder :rockon:
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by pdavey » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:01 pm

She is a beauty.

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Other Mods:
  • Kenwood KVT-719 w/ Garmin Navigation and Kenwood Rear Camera, JL Stealth Sub
Suspension/Protection Mods:
  • Carli Upper "Bomb Proof" Ball Joints, NAPA Lower Ball Joints, Thuren Adj Track Bar, Thuren Adjusted Fox Damper, T-Style Steering Upgrade, New Power Steering Pump, 2012 Power Steering Motor Upgrade, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Rear Shocks -Stage 1, Thuren Off-set Control Arms, Thuren King 2.5 Custom Front Shocks -Stage 2, 35x12.50x17 Nitto Trail Grappler (previous tires Cooper STT), Carli Front Dif Gard,
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:24 pm

coder wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:03 pm
zooroadbaja wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:15 pm
Ive been looking for a 3rd gen PW and doing some research on the side, some of the things ive read were after market winches are better, locker sway bar switch goes out so replacing sway bar and rewiring lockers. With all that being said would i be better off buying a regular 2500 and adding a bumper, winch, rear locker, and carli lift? Hope that makes sense.
Hello zooroadbaja, where are you located? I've been thinking about selling my PW it has everything you're looking for and is in excellent condition inside, outside and mechanically.
WHAT?????? :shock:

Thought you are going to get buried in it when you die like me. :rockon:
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by coder » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:36 pm

I'm torn, I love my PW, but I'm considering ordering 2020 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited and I don't need both.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:02 pm

coder wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:36 pm
I'm torn, I love my PW, but I'm considering ordering 2020 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited and I don't need both.
I know that feeling. It's been a while since I bought a new vehicle. The Jeep truck has my interest. But not at those prices. Would want the diesel if it come out.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by Ducky's Dad » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:50 pm

I'm considering ordering a 2020 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited
My buddy got the hots for a Rubi UL, sold me his Tundra TRD Crewmax, and after three years decided he really preferred a truck. Dumped the Rubi and went back to a Tundra TuRD Pro. He wanted a PW based on trips in my '05, but new ones would not fit in his office garage. It's hard to beat a 3G PW.

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by RustyPW » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:04 pm

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:50 pm
I'm considering ordering a 2020 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited
My buddy got the hots for a Rubi UL, sold me his Tundra TRD Crewmax, and after three years decided he really preferred a truck. Dumped the Rubi and went back to a Tundra TuRD Pro. He wanted a PW based on trips in my '05, but new ones would not fit in his office garage. It's hard to beat a 3G PW.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by zooroadbaja » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:25 am

Anyone have one for sale?

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by olyelr » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:16 am

zooroadbaja wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:25 am
Anyone have one for sale?
Did you get in contact with coder yet?
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by zooroadbaja » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:36 am

Not selling

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by olyelr » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:22 am

zooroadbaja wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:36 am
Not selling
What a dick tease lol
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by zooroadbaja » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:45 pm

Yea got blue balls. But possibly found one so fingers crossed.

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Post by olyelr » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:14 pm

zooroadbaja wrote:
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Yea got blue balls. But possibly found one so fingers crossed.
Well I thought they would be kinda easy to find... so I started looking the other day and sure as shit, they are like finding hens teeth.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by Powagone » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:49 pm

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:50 pm
I'm considering ordering a 2020 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited
My buddy got the hots for a Rubi UL, sold me his Tundra TRD Crewmax, and after three years decided he really preferred a truck. Dumped the Rubi and went back to a Tundra TuRD Pro. He wanted a PW based on trips in my '05, but new ones would not fit in his office garage. It's hard to beat a 3G PW.
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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by Ducky's Dad » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:04 pm

Well I thought they would be kinda easy to find... so I started looking the other day and sure as shit, they are like finding hens teeth.
That's because the '05s are best of breed. It's all about the panty hook.

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Re: 3rd Gen PW question

Post by olyelr » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:48 am

Ducky's Dad wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:04 pm
Well I thought they would be kinda easy to find... so I started looking the other day and sure as shit, they are like finding hens teeth.
That's because the '05s are best of breed. It's all about the panty hook.
Wasnt just looking for 05’s. All 3rd gens.
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